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Wind Tech Winter Survival Guide: Safety in Freezing Temps

This week we spoke to Alex Fournier, a field operations manager who works on wind turbines in frigid temperatures, about the safety precautions and practices technicians need when doing turbine maintenance and repairs in extreme cold. Recommendations such as heated gear, taking breaks to warm up, and using procedures to mitigate risks like icefalls are only a few ways that techs could keep safe in winter temperatures. Visit https://www.fabricair.com/ice-protection-systems/

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Allen Hall: Welcome to the special edition of the Uptime Wind Energy podcast. I’m your host, Allen Hall, along with my co host, Joel Saxum. In this episode, we explore the unique hazards faced by wind turbine technicians working to keep the turbine spinning during extreme cold weather events. As renewable energy expands, more wind farms are located in remote areas with harsh winter conditions, placing technicians at risk of frostbite, hypothermia, and injury.

Joining us to discuss cold weather safety is Alex Fournier, field operations manager at Borealis Wind, which is a division of FabricAir now. Alex is based in Quebec, Canada, and has been working in the wind industry for seven years. Alex will share his insights on the precautions technicians should take when performing maintenance and repairs in cold climates.

Alex, welcome to the program.

Alex Fournier: Thank you guys for having me today.

Allen Hall: So it’s been really cold in Canada and the United States. There’s been we’re expecting a snowstorm tonight. So we’re battening down the hatches. But as the wind turbines must keep running. And I was recently down in Texas when a cold front was coming on.

Coming through there and the technicians were really concerned about it because it’s something that doesn’t happen very often They’re not really prepared for the cold weather to stay any length of time And I thought Alex does this all the time. He lives in this kind of environment That’s my day today and with Borealis, Borealis obviously creates the de icing systems for wind turbine blades And so Alex is up and down on wind turbines all the time putting systems in and keeping blades Turning, I thought this is a good opportunity to talk about wind turbine safety and cold weather conditions and some of the things that you do and your technicians you work with to keep yourself safe in this cold weather conditions.

Because I’ll have to tell you one of the coldest times I was ever in was in Montreal, very near to you, actually.

Alex Fournier: Yeah the thing with Montreal is, oh, it’s an island, so it’s a circle of water. And so it’s really humid. So when you’re in the city, you can feel the humidity go through your clothes.

It’s so yeah, you don’t go in Montreal when it’s minus 30.

Allen Hall: No, and you better bring a hat and gloves because I thought I could make about a hundred yard run to the building I was working at from my car and I got about halfway there and I thought, I’m going to have hypothermia. I am not going to make it.

Alex Fournier: Oh yeah, no, it’s not not temperature you want to play around with.

Allen Hall: Yeah. Some of the gear that’s used up in Canada, and I’ve seen some pictures of technicians up in Canada, getting ready to go work on wind turbines. I think it’s really important that we all highlight what are those things are and the safety gear you guys take.

Cause I think the other thing about Canada is the location of the wind farms can be very remote. You’re out there by yourself.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, exactly. So most of the wind farm in Quebec they’re really isolated from the road or the cities. Some other some other province and Canada, the wind farm are closer to towns, but in Quebec, it’s really isolated.

So normally when you go to the turbine, you need to be prepared, and what I’ve seen recently, so props to Milwaukee, they started doing some heated clothes. So they do heated pants, heated coat, yeah, heated toque, heated glove, heated socks, heated boots even. So I think that’s really one of the key and we see it more and more technicians starting to equip themselves with it.

And we also see company that start buying that stuff to their technician, cause they don’t want to stop the work, even though the temperatures are really cold, right?

Joel Saxum: I’ll go give it one for the the rest of our listeners that may not know it. Okay. Cause I have my better half is Canadian. I’ve spent some time in Canada as well, but a toque.

It’s actually a warm winter hat. That’s what we would call like a be a beanie. Just so when you say two, I wanna make sure everybody knows what it is, but but the Milwaukee clothes, the one thing they’ve done it’s fantastic. So they can use the little drill batteries, actually like the little 12, 12 amp or 12 volt ones, and you plug it in, has a little pocket in the side.

The other cool thing they have is, and I don’t know about all of them, but some of them, like the jackets actually have a 12 volt plugin, so you can plug it into the truck while you’re in the truck and it will heat the jacket up. And then you unplug it, run out, do your work. You can get back in, plug it back in.

It’s like wearing a warm blanket. They’re pretty awesome.

Alex Fournier: Exactly. So I will say like an essential for a technician that work in the winter will be heated clothes or at least a good coverall. Me, I always wear coverall nice winter coverall. And also if they can eat something warm, so even a soup or even crock pot, they sell like a little pot that you can eat and warm up your food that will help you go through the day.

Joel Saxum: Not, this isn’t wind turbine specific, but I spent a lot of time up on the north slope of Alaska in the wintertime, and which is, it’s Arctic, right? The big thing up there, and of course, where wind turbines are, whether they’re in Quebec or Saskatchewan or North Dakota or Frickin Sweden or wherever else it is in the Arctic temperatures, we’re in wind.

It’s going to be windy. So all of those things, you want to protect yourself, right? So one of the, one of the concepts we always drilled home to people was, okay, there’s ambient temperature and then there’s the wind chill. Yeah, the wind chill. Yeah. And so ambient temperature, which is like the regular, Hey, it’s 20 below.

That affects everything material. So whether it’s a metal, or a car door, or ice, or whatever, that affects that. However, windchill only affects things that are living, that are organic. The wind has an effect on your hand, but does not have necessarily an effect on your hammer. So you want to make sure that everything that you have exposed to the wind is covered up in these windy areas.

If you’re out in the farm fields in Alberta, and you’re working wind turbines in the wintertime, Man, that wind is going to be blowing. So sometimes you want to wear face covering, make sure no, no skin, nothing down here under your eyes or anything like that is exposed because that’s when you can get frostbite real quick.

Alex Fournier: Oh yeah. And you have no choice. You’re going to work for, let’s say 10 to 12 hours of that turbine. You want to be warm. If you’re cold, what’s going to affect the cold really going to affect you because it’s going to affect you mentally too. And it’s going to exhaust you. Your body will become exhausted because it’s trying to warm up itself.

And also it can affect you mentally, because while you’re doing the work, you just want to be done because you’re cold, so that can be an effect of, working in cold weather is that it will affect also your job performance.

Joel Saxum: Do they regularly put out okay, here’s the windchill chart.

And when the temperatures are this much, this is when you must take warm up periods to warm up. And do they have policies for all that?

Alex Fournier: Yeah, so normally, especially in Quebec, I was on a site maybe two years ago, and I got to the site and it was minus 37 Celsius. So we got to the site, we assess the situation.

We’re like, Oh, it’s really cold outside. We’re really exposed to frostbite. And even it’s not going to make your day go easy. So do you actually have a charge, a chart and it’s maybe like you do 30 minutes of work and then you do 30 minutes of warm up. But normally when temperature are that cold, you’re going to wait until it drops under the 30 to start working again.

Joel Saxum: Another thing I was thinking, I’m thinking about here. So this was something that happened to us up in Alaska a lot. Certain tools that you use when you can use them inside or when it’s warm you can use just fine But when it’s cold you can’t like the one that always stuck up my mind was like zip ties, okay in a turbine You know There’s zip ties zipping wires together making you making sure everything looks neat and fancy if it’s 30 below a standard plastic zip Type just breaks like the tab just breaks off.

You don’t get to use it They make polar ones that have the little metal tab on them. And sometimes even those So it changes the way you do things.

Alex Fournier: I have a funny story. I was doing rope access in Montreal in my old days, and we had to install a banner on the crane just to promote like a project they were working on and it was during the winter.

So I was like, yeah, we’re just going to use zip tie, we’re going to zip tie it to the crane. And it will be perfect. So then we spend two hours with zip tying the big sign. And then we get to the ground and we look up and the sign is all off. We remove, cause it was so cold as zip tie snap in the wind.

So we looked at it and we’re like, okay, we went to Home Depot and we buy elastic and we put it back with elastic. But yeah we learned from that. Yeah.

Allen Hall: So what are some of the things you guys take on your truck? And I know a lot of times when you’re up that far north, you tend to plug your vehicles in to keep them warm, keep the oil warm so you can start them.

Alex Fournier: So some sites in Quebec, mostly they don’t plow the road. So the, they need to access with machinery. So some sites they will use snow cats some sites they will use side by side. So normally we use all that kind of stuff, but the essential really, I would say will be like coffee, warm clothes.

Charger for all your stuff. Cause even your phone up there, will die really quick. So you need the method of communication, either for your radio or your phone. We need, sometimes we need chain for the wheel. Because you can get stuck in the snow, right? So not only you deal, so people think that we’re usually dealing with ice, which is true, like we’re dealing with a lot of ice when we’re outside, but we’re also dealing with the cold weather, the snow and the wind, so you need to be prepared for all that kind of stuff.

Joel Saxum: Do they try to give you some kind of backup communications, right? If you’re normally on site, you have like a VHF radio in the vehicle and a cell phone and this just in case something happens.

Alex Fournier: Normally the radios, they’re charged every day. At the day, we charge our radio.

And we normally have three or four, depending on how many members we have in our team. So for all four radio to die at the same time, I think you need to stop the day there and go home. But yeah, normally we have enough communication, method to be able to talk to site especially with the phone or the radio.

Allen Hall: And for boots, what are you guys doing for boots? And to, are you doing like the yak tracks to add to boots so you get a little more grip when it does turn icy?

Alex Fournier: I know some sites they require ice not ice, but ice like a spike. So I was working on some site in the States and it was required to have some spike on your boots to be on site.

Just cause even at the OM yard, you can just slip and fall, so even the people in the office were wearing spike boots that I like, it’s the Geos or Neos boots. So it’s like a overboots so that will keep your feet warm because you’re not actually touching the surface of the you’re not touching the ground, you’re in your Neos, so the Neos touch the ground and keep your feet warm.

Or just a good winter boots. We’ll do the work.

Joel Saxum: Big old boot that, there’s a difference to that. People don’t think about because if you have an experience that you just don’t know, but when you’re standing on the cold metal stairs, grates or anything of the, of a turbine.

Your feet will get colder way faster than they will just standing on snow.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, exactly. And like I was saying, two years ago, I was in Minnesota working in the States and I was working with a lot of people from Texas in January. So they got sent to site and they didn’t really know, what to expect.

So me, I checked the weather before I came down there. So I was like, Oh, wow. It’s pretty close to Canada, so I bought, good boots, fiberglass toe. Because if you wear metal toe, it’s going to freeze up right away. So I bought good fiberglass toes, toe boots. I bought a big coat and I got there and I was ready, but I seen all these Texas people coming in with their stilto boots.

And the first minute they were outside, they were like, my feet are frozen. And I was like, yeah, it’s because you got still cap.

Joel Saxum: Here. I’ll give you, I’ll give you a South to North one. So while I was working on a project in Nenana, Alaska, one time outside of Fairbanks. And it was really remote.

This is an oil and gas thing. So every morning you woke up, you got in a helicopter, you flew over the mountain an hour, and you got dropped out in there, and we surveyed all day. And then they were drilling shot holes behind us for seismic exploration. And the drilling company, drillers for that kind of stuff are really hard to come by.

That is a very specific skill. And so they brought this drilling company out of Louisiana. To the middle of Alaska in February, and they showed up on site and they had, because they’re used to drilling in water, so they always wear like waiters and stuff. So these guys showed up, they were wearing waiters and like hooded sweatshirts and it was 40 below Fahrenheit.

The first day we couldn’t fly because it was 40 below is the cutoff for the collectives of the helicopter. To be able to be too cold to fly. So the first day we couldn’t fly. And all these guys, their eyes were this big. They just showed up from Louisiana what are we doing here? And they had to put them all in a bus and go to Fairbanks and buy them all.

Art, the Arctic Carhartt gear, right? Bibs and jackets and goggles, full face masks, all this stuff, because they were not prepared whatsoever.

Alex Fournier: So that’s what we ended up doing with the Texas people. We did the stop work, reassess, and we went to the store and we bought all the bibs and the big coat for them to be able to work.

It’s not some, it’s not something that someone will know if they don’t experience it, so it’s let’s say the wind farm in Texas that get, ice storm and then they’re stuck, their operation are all stuck because they don’t know what to do. It’s just they just don’t know, it’s not their fault, they just don’t experience it.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, there’s another thing that’s really important in the wintertime that I was taught from a young age, but grew up in northern Wisconsin, right? Same thing. Is layering. So layering it, cause if you go I’m gonna throw on as much clothes as I can to stay warm and you don’t walk around and you start sweating and all this stuff, then you get cold like that.

Then you’re done. If you start sweating, you’re screwed. So you wanna make sure that you got a good thin base layer and just kinda build that stuff up. It’s to, to mount, to be able to manage the heat within your body. Cause then you can take things off, take stuff on, whatever like that.

So if you don’t manage that heat and you get sweaty you’re in a world of hurt.

Alex Fournier: Exactly. And that’s an issue that we face in the wind industry. Cause that ladder, you still need to climb it. It’s not because it’s winter that you don’t climb the ladder. So when you get to climb the ladder, you need to remove some layers.

So when you climb, you’re not. Too warm. So when you get on top, you’re a little bit cold, but then you start layering back up. Exactly. So you don’t want to sweat while you climb because then you’re screwed.

Joel Saxum: Yep. Let me ask you this. Did you ever be up in a nacelle and it’s actually nice that the turbine is running because it creates a little bit of heat up there?

Alex Fournier: Yep. But normally when I go there, turbines are down. So I’m cold.

Joel Saxum: You’re not climbing during a snowstorm unless the turbine’s off.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, exactly. Because it’s actually like a rule in Quebec Don’t mark me on my word on that, but I think it’s actually a ruling in Quebec that tower, you cannot stop a tower in the winter if it doesn’t need to be stopped.

Cause that’s in the winter that we have the most wind production, like the wind is stronger in the winter, so they don’t want to stop tower if they’re not stopped. So normally when we go in towers, they’re pretty cold.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, cause they want to maintain the grid. That’s when you guys need the most power too is in the middle of winter.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, exactly. There’s some turbine model that they have heaters inside. We’re lucky enough that some of our clients have. Heaters and their turbines. So when we get up there, even if the turbine is stopped, we can start the heater and it’s Cancun in the cell. But we also have clients that don’t have any heating system.

And when we get up there, it’s just freezing cold.

Allen Hall: Are you allowed to take some heaters up there with you if they don’t have a heating system?

Alex Fournier: Yes, we do. But it’s going to be like a conventional house heater. So even if you put it like in the blade, it will make a little difference. We do it because when we eat, we like to be warm.

But even like putting that in the blade, it won’t change anything. I’m lucky enough because we work with the icing system, hot air de icing system, so we can start the system.

Joel Saxum: You just turn the Borealis system on, turn the heater on. Pull, yeah, pull the FabricAir thing off and let the heater just blow on you for a little bit.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, that’s how I eat my lunch, but no For real, when we, normally when we go in there we can start the system before, so when we go in the blade, it’s a little bit warmer. It doesn’t stay warm for hours, but it still give us a little push.

Joel Saxum: Let me ask you this one, this was a trick that we used to use.

So you take your Sammy Maker, Your nice sandwich at home or whatever the night before for your lunch or your soup or whatnot, but that sandwich you’d wrap in tinfoil. So when you got uptower.

Alex Fournier: Put it on the gearbox.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, put it on the gearbox, warm your sandwich up. Does that happen in the wind world?

Alex Fournier: Yeah, we still do that, yeah. We we actually bought the grill cheese maker last year. Heh. It seems stupid, but we bought a grill cheese maker and we just grill her sandwich and and the dinner lunchtime. So that make it more fun.

Joel Saxum: I learned that trick actually, when I was like 19 years old, I was working on a road crew in Chicago, Illinois and what they would do.

Is they would take, was it they’re pouring asphalt, right? So they take your sandwich and say, Hey, wrap that thing in five layers of tinfoil tomorrow. And they take a five gallon bucket and they put us a shovel full of asphalt in there and then put everybody’s sandwich and put another shovel on top.

Wait like 15 minutes, then take the asphalt out, unwrap your sandwiches and they’re all cooked.

Alex Fournier: That’s a good idea.

Joel Saxum: So let me ask a question about something turbine specific. Is there anything that you’ve seen in a turbine, whether it’s a. I don’t know, a cabinet latch or a climb assist or something that are like, man, it’s cold out.

Now we got to worry about this thing, right? Because it was, yeah, I’m thinking about mechanics wise, it was always like, when it got that cold where I’ve been, you don’t want to be cranking on, metal parts and stuff because they get brittle when it

gets that cold.

Alex Fournier: The 1 thing I can think about, it’s the 3s lift.

I know on the nuts, it’s right. If you work. Between these temperature that are low temperature, you need to work the lift before you use it. So make a couple of run and then you can use it just to warm it up. But obviously everything that is battery powered, your drill will, will give up after a couple of minutes.

Your climb assist can even give up after a couple of minutes. So everything really that have a battery, no good in the winter. If you use a lamp, bring extra battery with you because it won’t live forever. But yeah, everything that is mechanical, it’s more work in the winter, just because also you need to think about yourself, you all layer it up, so you’re just your movement are way harder than if it was summer.

Joel Saxum: So the whole crew though, all the technicians that got the spare batteries in their, in And inside their jacket and stuff, trying to keep them good.

We work with we work with Sikaflex and our method to warm it up is we put it in our bibs and we just carry it all day until we need to use it.

Allen Hall: Oh, wow. I wondered about adhesives because yeah, it’s so cold. I just don’t want to, don’t want to move.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, it’s crazy. I will say all. Everything that is fiberglass work, I would say take a break in the winter. Unless you really need to do it. I know some company they’re innovating right now. I seen Acura and they did a post on LinkedIn maybe two weeks ago.

And they’re using the SkyFlix platform with the heaters and the lamp and it’s all cover up, so they’re able to still do composite work in the winter. So a couple of company like this, they’re really innovating and trying to bring services all year round, which is exceptional.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, that when we were, when we would run with any kind of adhesives or anything like that, it was like when you’re driving to site, it’s always, they’re up on the dash rate where the defroster is getting heat right on them. You get out, grab, stick them inside, and away you go.

Allen Hall: And wintertime, the days are short, right?

So when your time, especially when you’re up north where you are, and some of those wind farms, the days are really short. Do you have to be cautious about, hey, it’s getting dark outside, we got to get out of here? Are there rules about that? About being where it’s really cold, plus it’s being dark, and the temperature does drop some when the sun goes down, even on those northern latitudes.

Is there more things you have to worry about once the sun goes down?

Alex Fournier: Yeah, my personal advice is if you work in the winter, don’t try to push it just because, it’s cold, you’re tired, it get dark fast, yeah, normally you still try to go down when the sun go down, if that makes sense.

But I don’t think there’s actually a ruling, but yeah, when the sun goes down, you need to go down too, because it will get even colder too.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, and for people who don’t realize that or have been in the South, basically working on turbines, or even the South, really, to be honest with you, all the way up to the Dakotas and whatnot.

If you’re up in Quebec or northern Quebec, especially your day, your sunlight, good sunlight of the day can only be 9 to 3. Like you’re down to a 6 hours of sunlight.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you really need to be cautious too. And if I can tell a story too, we were in Quebec I think a year ago and it was in the morning.

And so we opened the snow cat and it starts snowing and we’re like, oh, it’s going to snow today, but we didn’t expect much snow. And then it was the end of the day around 8, 9, so it’s already dark. Then we get out and all our tracks are completely cover up. So we didn’t even we didn’t even know the road anymore, and it’s all like big ditch.

Joel Saxum: How to get back to the O&M building.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, so we had a guy outside just walking, trying to find like the deep spot. And yeah, we were with the snowcat. It was crazy, be cautious of the snow too, because when it starts snowing, you never know what’s going to happen. And it can be a couple of centimeters, but it can be two feet too.

Allen Hall: Yeah, how do you deal with that though? It does seem like the snowstorms come randomly at times. Do you carry GPS with you in some way? I guess your phone has GPS, but does it even work that far? Away from cell towers.

Alex Fournier: The good idea will have been to look at the weather channel before the start of the day, when you need to get some stuff done, that’s not the first thing you’re going to think about, you mostly think about work first in my case, so no, but yeah, having, let’s say like a good, a good part of the day, a plan of the day, assess all the risk in the morning.

And then you can do your work and, work in consequences. That will really be the key.

Allen Hall: Just to summarize, make sure you have extra gear, make sure of extra food. Don’t get wet and prepare for when it gets really cold. Yeah. And mind your batteries.

Alex Fournier: But there’s some of our client, the innovative solution to, like I said, we work with snow cat.

So that, that can pretty much get you anywhere you need to go. And they also have ice trailer. What is an ice trailer? It’s something you attach either on a truck or at a snowcat, and when you bring it to the tower, there’s actually like a platform that’s deploying so that will protect you from the ice falling too.

Oh, I didn’t, never heard of that. Yeah, so that, that helps the technicians to to work safe and even mitigate the ice risk. And even now, they created some trucks with platform on it that will protect you from the ice as well.

Joel Saxum: Okay, this is a, we’re going to talk about a risk that is specific to wind turbines, right?

You guys, Borealis, you’re in the icing space, like your friends, Ice Tech, that are up there as well, in that icing space, knowing when that’s going on. And getting, the blades getting covered with ice. We, I’ve been on insurance cases where they say, hey the turbine was spinning, a chunk of ice came off that was the size of the hood of a truck.

The next blade came, hit it, did a bunch of damage. Now we’re talking about the blades. But you guys are people standing under the turbines. How do you handle that risk?

Alex Fournier: Yeah, so first of all, I should say, get a de icing system, a Borealis Wind IPS system. But all joke aside, there’s mitigation. First of all, it’s to have a good procedure in place.

I think just with having a good procedure, all to work with ice risk is the key of it because often people, they’re a little bit hesitant, to work with ice because everyone know it’s a risk, right? Everyone across the industry know that ice is a risk. So when you tell it a technician to go work on a tower, that’s I stopped it.

They might be hesitant, but if you have a good procedure in place that explain all the risk and all to mitigate them. That would be the first step, having a good procedure, that would be the first step, just to eliminate all the hesitation from technician and really have a clear idea of what it is.

And the second step will be to get some medication tool. Like I said, a snow cat with an ice trailer that’s really helpful, because now, that you have the procedure and then you’re on top of that. You have, risk mitigation, you have material to mitigate it. That will really be the key to be able to work with the eyes is to get prepared, have the tooling and the procedure to prepare yourself to, to work with the eyes.

And on top of that, if you can have the icing system, obviously that will work too.

Allen Hall: That’s a really serious problem to deal with though. It does seem the icefalls could instantaneously kill you, leave you stranded, or leave you stranded out there, seriously hurt.

Alex Fournier: Yeah, it’s, you don’t want to play around with that, and, there’s certain situation, if you see that it’s super sunny outside, and you see the ice shed, obviously don’t go there.

It’s the first step, and no one will be, no one will be mad because you do a stuff work that’s, you don’t play around with safety. There’s still some way to be able to work even though there’s ice, even if you don’t have a snowcat or ice trailer, if you follow a good procedure, there’s some case that it’s going to be minus four with a big sun shining, obviously some pieces of ice will shed, because it will melt.

But if it’s minus 20 outside, not sunny, and you’re able to yaw the tower away from the door. At temperature around minus 20, minus 15, the ice doesn’t shed. It’s pretty, stuck on the blade. You can do you can do break tests. People do that though. They will spin the rotor, do a brake test, see if the ice shed normally if the ice doesn’t shed, the temperature is super low, and you can yaw away from the tower and the wind is in the, another direction, then I will say it’s safe to access the turbine but yeah, in some cases, it’s just Not workable if you don’t have the good tool.

Allen Hall: I’ve learned a tremendous amount here, Alex. I had no idea of all the techniques and pieces of equipment you take to, to keep yourself safe while working on wind turbines when it’s cold outside, this is fascinating to hear.

Alex Fournier: But like I said, us, we’re used to it cause we’re from, we’re from Nordic province and it’s, we need to deal with it day to day.

So it will be a shame if every day we will not be able to work because of the ice. So people with good idea came in and, that’s how we’re able to work and innovate the industry.

Allen Hall: So if I’m down in Texas and I’m in the middle of an ice storm and I want to get ahold of you, Alex, how do I get some advice from you about how to work in cold climates?

Where do I go?

Alex Fournier: Really I suggest that every, service company or, energy provider to really dig into it and just make clear procedure for all their worker. That will be the best bet I can give them. Cause like I said, with a clear procedure, you educate your worker too, and you ensure that they’re safe to work.

Allen Hall: If you’re on the web, you might as well check out Borealis Wind. Because they have a really cool deicing system.

Alex Fournier: borealiswind.com. We can, so scrap all the podcasts, just go on the website and use our solution and you will be set.

Allen Hall: Alex, thanks for appearing on the program. We love hearing all this good stuff and we’ll see you at some of the trade shows this month.

Alex Fournier: So myself, Alexander, will be in Quebec at the IQPR conferences to talk about deicing. My buddy, Wade Coulis, our sales manager will be at Blades USA and me and him will be at, in San Diego next week at the OMS safety summit. And Daniel Roper will be at Winter Wind and we will be in Minneapolis for the ACP trade show also.

Allen Hall: Yeah, that’s great. Alex, so much for being on the program.

Alex Fournier: Thank you guys for having me and I wish you all a good day.

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US Pushes LNG, Denmark Offshore Permits

This week we discuss the Danish government’s permit extensions for two offshore wind farms, the U.S. Senate’s new renewable energy bill, the Belgian government’s halted wind farm tender, and the complexities of laying seabed cables for wind farms.

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You are listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by build turbines.com. Learn, train, and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. Visit build turbines.com today. Now here’s your hosts, Alan Hall, Joel Saxon, Phil Totaro, and Rosemary Barnes. 

Allen Hall 2025: Well welcome back to Uptime Wind Energy Podcast.

I have Rosemary Barnes down in Canberra Australia. Phil’s in California, and evidently he lives next door to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle and I, I had no idea, Phil, like you’re that close to royalty. 

Phil Totaro: I’m not. You’re

Allen Hall 2025: making that up. Joel’s up in Wisconsin somewhere in the northern wilds of Wisconsin. Next to a cheese factory, and here I sit in Charlotte, North Carolina.

If we’ve been paying attention or if you’ve been paying attention to the news over the last, uh, 48 hours in America has been complete chaos as we are recording this and the US Senate has [00:01:00] passed a bill regarding renewable energy and it’s back to the house. Supposedly this is all gonna get signed off by the 4th of July.

So we’re recording it. Today is July 2nd. Um. So by the time you hear this, something may or may not have happened, and we’re trying to keep abreast of the latest, but I think there’s some other news going on around the world. And, uh, one of the stories we found interesting was the Danish Offshore, uh, agency Energy Agency has approved permit extensions for two of Denmark’s oldest offshore wind farms, which marks a major milestone for.

Wind energy longevity. The middle Gruden and Newstead offshore wind farms have received permission to operate for an additional 25 years and 10 years respectively. That is massive extension. Uh, the middle Gruden facility, which is built in 2001, has about 20 turbines and about 40 megawatts of capacity, and it’s owned by a community cooperative.

[00:02:00] And the Danes being on top of all these things, uh, allowed the extension after doing an engineering analysis showing that the infrastructure has more life. This is unusual. Is this just a artifact of early designs being overly conservative? And these wind farms can practically live forever? I think so. I, uh,

Joel Saxum: I like it.

Alright. I wish that all these wind turbines are built this way because it’s then you can get more longevity of, I think now of course when everybody has a repower now or tries to extend life, they’re trying to really do it. So they’re trying to, if we’re gonna put money, we’ll try to, you know, up the kilowatt, we’ll try to up the capacity, well then the foundations don’t hold and these kind of things.

So it’s kind of like if you look at, um. I’m up here in northern Wisconsin, not too far from my house. There’s a bridge that was built by the CCC, uh, the civilian Conservation Corps in like the, um, at the Great Depression. So like in the 1930s, late, [00:03:00] late 1920s. And that bridge is fine. Like it’s golden. It’s still good, right?

But it was overbuilt, super built to be heavy duty construction. And there’s another bridge just down the road from that same one over the same river that was done in the seventies that needs a complete replacement. Because it was done, it was done with like, you know, di different design functions, not as robust.

And, and it’s kind of like, oh, some of this first generation of older stuff is overbuilt, is toughly built. It’s the same thing. We talk about shorter blades, like a, you know, a V 47 or a GE one X, like those blades just last and, but you don’t see it as much anymore. So I, I, I’m happy to see this. I think it’s cool, uh, to see these things getting basically refurbished and.

Gonna have a life extension.

Allen Hall 2025: I don’t even know what the refurbishment process or the extension process looks like. Rosemary on something that is that old that’s made out of fiberglass and resin. How do you even evaluate something like that?

Rosemary Barnes: Well, what they [00:04:00] do is they, um, if, if you wanna do it properly, then you go back to the original, um, blade design files, um, and you basically, you rerun it, you can, and so you get a different result for two reasons.

Or two possible reasons. One could be that it didn’t see as hard of a life as what they designed for. So, um, you know, you can rerun with the actual loads that it saw if you have those available. And then the second thing is that, you know, these wind farms came on around the turn of the millennium, right?

Um, and so we’ve learned a lot, especially about, um, um, like how strong materials actually are. There are still gonna be some, some, you know, defects in some blades. That will see them fail before others. So you, you know, the blades are getting older. I would expect they will see more, more failures, but, um, there’s a lot better ways that you can monitor that sort of thing.

Now, you don’t just have to wait for a, a blade to break in half and fly off. Um, anymore. You can, uh, you know, install monitoring [00:05:00] stuff and, uh. Inspect them more frequently. You know, drone inspections are so much faster than, uh, if you would’ve had to get up on ropes and have a look at every, you know, square centimeter of blade surface.

So I think that there’s just, you know, that so many technologies have come so far since these, um, blades were designed, that there is a lot of scope to keep them going, if that makes sense. You know, a lot of times a turbine that was installed 25 years ago is gonna be tiny compared to today. So a lot of times people might not want to, um, they might wanna.

You put in new, new, bigger turbines instead.

Joel Saxum: Do you see, because, okay, so we talked about blades here for a second, right? But we have all kinds of rotating mechanical equipment, foundations, bolting all this. Do you see in my mind, in my mind, for something this old and wanting to extend that one, I see a massive NDT campaign.

I see checking bond lines on blades, looking at some metallurgical things, looking at some connection points offshore, looking at the foundations. I mean, of course you’re gonna do some seabed stuff, but that’s usually done in maintenance too. That’s a weird one there, because. [00:06:00] When you talk about maintenance, inspection, repair, and maintenance campaigns for offshore wind farms, there’s things that you don’t do onshore that you do complete offshore regularly, like scour inspections and some of the characterization site surveys, that stuff goes on regularly.

So that’s not something that you need to, oh, we gotta take this big campaign on. Should have regular every year bi-yearly data on that. So that’s cool, but I would see a big NNDT campaign in my mind. Um. I dunno. Maybe that’s Jeremy Hanks question.

Allen Hall 2025: Well, is this useful data that would help the industry just to know how these are performing?

Rosemary Barnes: I think it would be quite specific to the individual components. ’cause you, you know, if the wind farm had an initial life of what, 25 years, um, everything would’ve been designed to last 25 years. You don’t like, good engineering isn’t just making something as strong as you can because it’s gonna be much more expensive than it needed to be.

And what’s the point in having a. I don’t know, a tower that lasts for a a thousand years, but the blades only last for 30 years. There’s no, there’s no [00:07:00] point. Right. So, um, it would just be a matter of how, how excessively conservative the designers were in each case. It won’t be exactly the same for all of them.

I’m sure they’ll be exchanging many components probably. Um. Some components will just be preemptively, like we know that most of these are gonna fail, so we’re gonna do a site-wide, um, campaign to replace, you know, all these bearings or all these, you know, whatever component and then some other ones. It would be a matter of yeah, like waiting and seeing when they fail.

And I think that you’re right, Joel, that I. There’s so many good NDT technologies around now. Um, and, you know, predictive maintenance can, there’s a lot of sensors you can put in that will give you an early warning sign that things, you know, bearings don’t have a lot of life left in them or, or something like that.

And so then you can get really smart about your campaigns to, you know, keep it going.

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Just two months before bids were scheduled and the two gigawatt auction was set to launch in November, 2025. After four years of prep work and industry groups are calling the decision a violation of the coalition agreements and warn. It undermines investment certainty in Belgian offshore wind development.

Now, the, the Belgian government is saying that there’s a concern about the onshore grid readiness, uh, although there’s some dispute about that and that all they needed to do was wait a couple of months and it would’ve been fine. [00:09:00] What I’m wondering is there’s a lot of, uh, cancel projects happening. Over in Europe and the UK and this Belgium one, which has been going on for quite a while and has been sort of a point of pride for the last couple of years, all of a sudden seems to be on hold.

What is driving that?

Phil Totaro: Well, it’s, I mean, my, my best understanding of this is that they, there’s kind of a discussion as to what the function of these energy islands is gonna be and how much they’re really needing to invest in it. How much, uh. Are these going to be capable of serving as both service hubs and um, HVDC, uh, kind of collection points.

So there’s a camp in Europe that wants to do a significant amount to build out near term, uh, to be able to, you know, have the [00:10:00] capacity that we all talk about, both onshore and offshore. You know, if we have more transmission capacity, then we can add more. Um. You know, renewable energy, power generation, capacity whenever we want, uh, and, and need it to be able to meet demand.

Um, but they’re, I think, concerned at this point because of, you know, persistent high interest rates and inflation and things like that, which, you know, are gonna basically explode the project budget. So they wanna try to break it up into smaller phases that can be built in a more economically feasible way.

Allen Hall 2025: If the European Union has fines for not meeting commitments, they would get fined if they don’t. Get this project moving

Phil Totaro: theoretically, although that’s also always just a kind of an open thing. They, they can, you know, the, the current law says we’re gonna fine you, but if everyone kind of mutually agrees to forego the fine, then it’s just [00:11:00] kicking the can down the road.

Allen Hall 2025: Did you all see the wind Europe, uh, video today discussing the 20 30, 20 40, 20 50, uh, reaching. Essentially zero emissions are going back to 1990 emissions. And what is all involved with that? We’re mostly talking about heavy industry that is going to use a lot of electricity, it’s gonna switch off of gas, move to electricity, and it’s gonna take a little while to do that.

But it didn’t seem like there was any hesitation, at least from wind Europe, that it wasn’t going to happen. Obviously they’re a advocate for wind energy, uh, but it did. Seem in contrast to what we’ve been hearing in the United States. So it does seem like things are happening, at least at the top level politically in Europe, whereas in the United States, there seem to be somewhat on hold.

Why? I don’t think that’s an energy thing. I think

Joel Saxum: it’s a cultural

Allen Hall 2025: thing.

Joel Saxum: And if you look, if you look into [00:12:00] the E EU in general, they have more of a propensity to do things that are better for the whole and the group. Whereas in the US it’s more. Capitalism based, how can we make as much money as we can?

And capitalism based right now, natural gas is still cheap. If you can get a plant, if you can get electricity that way, you can get it. Whereas the EU will take more of a stance of doing things better for the long run. That’s my take on it.

Phil Totaro: They’ve been, you know, for the last three years, trying to put policies and mechanisms in place to be able to.

Have more domestic generation, um, for electricity and energy in general. Um, so, uh, this is part of why they’re trying to, um, you know, all motivate themselves collectively to move forward. But you’ve still got. Debates in some of the EU member countries like Germany right now with their offshore policy making, uh, France with onshore wind is still having an ongoing debate that’s holding up about $350 billion [00:13:00] worth of investment.

Uh, so. You know, it’s everybody’s moving as quickly as they can, but I think what’s also happening is everybody’s starting to recognize that, you know, if companies like RWE are pulling out of investing in the US at the moment, I. There’s money to be had and, you know, RW eor, um, you know, other companies that had originally intended to go build, you know, particularly offshore, but also some onshore and solar, uh, in the us if, if some of that money’s gonna be freed up, they wanna be able to capture it.

Allen Hall 2025: In the latest issue of PES Wind, which you can find online, just search for PES Wind using your Google engine. Uh, there’s a number of great articles and you, you need to go there and you need to download. This quarter’s, uh, magazine and, and Joel, there’s a, a really interesting article from, uh, go Be consultants about Seabeds and the cabling that happens on the seabeds and [00:14:00] all the difficulty of putting cables on the sea floor.

You always think I do as an electrical engineer. I’m like, it’s a cable. Just drop it on the sea floor and maybe put a couple of rocks on it to keep it from floating away. And you should be good. But it’s

Joel Saxum: a lot more difficult than that. There’s multiple phases of it too, right? So you have to do complete CED site characterization.

So you have to understand what the surface layout is. But then, okay, that surface layout, what is it composed of? Because some of this cable’s gonna sink into the silt, into the mud. Is there rocks down there? Is there rocks underneath the silt that when you lay it down, it could, could cut it? Is there currents where it’s gonna move it around?

Is that a problem? When people think, ah, it’s cable, they’ll just lay it on the sea floor. It’s not. It’s not simple. Um, and you with, I’m just, we’re just talking about site characterization. We haven’t talked about the actual operation of laying it or even loading it onshore and loading it offshore, because even at that level, a lot of damage to cables happens just during the manufacturing and loadout process.

Because it is so [00:15:00] difficult, uh, specialized vessels, specialized technicians, and people doing it, you pull on it too hard, it breaks, you push on it too hard, it breaks, you let it bend too much. It’s junk. It’s very, very, very difficult to lay cables correctly. And if you remember Alan, I think it was man, 2021, there was a, like a $1 billion, like a nine figure.

Insurance case about cable lay in the North Sea on the big wind farm.

Allen Hall 2025: Well, the article does say that 75% of cable problems are manmade phishing. Anchors and as we had seen was, was it late last year, a couple of anchor drops where their anchors were drug on purpose. There’s gonna be a lot more concern about that now and how those, uh, power cables are covered or buried.

I, I guess pretty much, uh, wasn’t the EU pushing to bury all the cables, particularly around the uk?

Joel Saxum: Yeah, there’s, there’s, I mean, there’s. It’s difficult in the UK too because there’s trenching [00:16:00] machines, right? So you have trenching machines that can trench things really easily into silt mud and that on those kind of loose sediments.

However, if you’ve ever been in some of these landing spots, like say like the Scottish Coast, like it’s all rock, right? So now you have a landing problem. You know, so you can, you can bury, you can cover with concrete mattresses, you can do rock bags, you can do all kinds of great stuff. You can also bury it a couple meters down with a trenching machine.

But then there’s the approaches and the, the current offshore that will unbury them and things. It’s very difficult to get it correct.

Allen Hall 2025: Yeah, it it, you need to go check out this article, but it, it lays out all the issues with protecting cables and you can see this and PES win to just go on to Google and look up ps win.com and read the article.

Very good and, and nice job by Goby by the way, uh, I didn’t know some of the things I’ve, I’ve learned a lot from Joel over the last year or two as he explains this to me very slowly. But this article was full of great details. As Wind Energy professionals staying informed is crucial, [00:17:00] and let’s face it difficult.

That’s why the Uptime podcast recommends PES Wind Magazine. PES Wind offers a diverse range of in-depth articles and expert insights that dive into the most pressing issues facing our energy future. Whether you’re an industry veteran or new to wind, PES Wind has the high quality content you need. Don’t miss out.

Visit PS wind.com today. So as we discussed at the beginning of the show, the US Senate has introduced legislation that could provide some, uh, support to the wind industry. So when the latest. Big Bill, what are we calling it? Joel? Big beautiful Bill. Uh, there’s a new provision which basically says if you get roughly 5% of the project cost, uh, started with in the ground or done some work, then the project qualifies for production tax credits that will create, I think, a demand for turbines to be delivered [00:18:00] soon.

And, uh, the, the folks at Sid Bank put out an article, it was late last week or over the weekend that basically said, Hey, Vestus may get a lot of orders from this, uh, because they, they’ll have a lot of demand to get projects in the ground in the United States. Does that make sense? You think Vestas is gonna be the big winner there?

Well, Sid Bank is a vest, is a Danish

Joel Saxum: bank, so that makes, that makes sense. But they have the pulse, they’re there. I I, I don’t know if Vestas is a big winner. I think that there’s gonna be, if this is by 2027, you gotta have a certain amount of thing done. No matter what part of the value chain that you show in the United States for new, new development construction, you’re gonna be busy.

Till 2027 if this, if this thing passes everything the way it should, because simply it’s, it’s like the old oil and gas leases where, uh, if we’re doing work, we still get to extend the lease. So they go, come and park a dozer on your property and all of a sudden your lease gets extended. Definitely. It’s the same concept, right?

If you go out there and you gotta, [00:19:00] if it’s gonna spend 5% of the project, well, let’s go build roads and pads, um, and, you know, deliver a turbine or two. And now we’ve paid for 5% and now that stuff may. Sit there for a little while, while they catch back up. And I think that you’re gonna have an accelerated timeline of things getting done here in the next few years.

Uh, if this passes in its current form, um, I, I would expect the house to change some of these things, but. I’m not a part of the House of Representatives, so,

Allen Hall 2025: well, they’re gonna have to come to agreement pretty quick. And I’m curious as to where this all ends up. I listening to all the discussions over the weekend and reading a number of articles and trying to figure out like, what’s this deal?

Just broaden the scope here for a moment. What’s the deal with all the tariff talks? What’s the deal with all the l and g petroleum push in America? What is happening with the national debt, which is a big discussion in the United States at the [00:20:00] minute, and the Federal deficit, which is what, 34 $5 trillion, where the GDP of the US is about 27 20 $8 trillion.

So the, the debt’s bigger than the national GDP. There does seem to be be a play going on in, I was listening to a podcast this morning from oil and gas. I tried to keep track of these things and they were just really upset with what happened in the Senate. Oh my gosh. We haven’t penalized solar and wind enough.

We need to put more taxation on them to, and it was crazy. It sounded crazy. The oil and gas folks that are pro oil and gas, yeah, they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do. But it does seem like there is a maybe some method to this madness in terms of. What is the United States trying to accomplish here with all the oil and gas talk?

Because it does seem like the tariff talks turn into why are you not buying American LNG? [00:21:00] That’s where it seems to be headed. Do you see that quite often, like the national debt and is the the way to get the economy rolling where there’s more revenue coming into the federal government is to just pump, pump, pump.

This is the Joel. This is also the discussion about Alaska opening up all the. Uh, oil and gas exploration in Alaska, all of a sudden you have to have a customer for this product. And how are they gonna do that? Unless they’re gonna force it through tariff. The tariff talks and all the economic exchanges are gonna happen over the next, supposedly the next couple of weeks.

Joel Saxum: There’s a lot of, like, there’s some facts and numbers here too. Like, uh, the last one I saw was since we started putting. Heavier tariffs, uh, on trading partners. That $121 billion in tariff revenues rolled into the states in the last two, four months. So that’s, that’s, that’s one number. Um, the gas thing is the idea that we can turn it on right now and we can make money on it.

Right [00:22:00] now, I understand that, uh, there’s a big project in Alaska being pitched to get LNG off the North slope because right now only crude pumps off the North Slope. Um, so there’s a big LNG project in the works to get to build a new basically taps line, which is like a, it’ll be a $10 billion project to build a pipeline again across Alaska these days.

Um, and, but another thing that I think that people don’t realize, and this is the, the I’m, you know, I’m an ex oil and gas cot. I still play in that world every once in a while, but when, when people start to fight about the. The tariffs back and forth. We haven’t penalized this and the subsidies and these kind of things.

It’s really quite silly to me because what we really need right now is an all of the above energy strategy. We need as much as, as much as we can that’ll help us fuel the ai, AI, arms, race, data center race, all of these things. We need power and, and when you talk subsidies and people get mad about PTC credits or the IRA credits, they fail to realize sometimes, and I’m not saying they as a person, just people in general [00:23:00] like.

Drilling for oil and gas has been subsidized in the United States since 1913, right? The, the intangible drilling costs deduction for drilling companies. Like we’ve been doing this same thing. That’s the, that is the equivalent of an ITC credit. You’re gonna investment, you’re gonna, you’re gonna, you’re gonna invest to get power, or you’re gonna invest to get hydrocarbons.

We’re gonna give you a tax break on it. Same thing. Um, so these, you know, you’ve had clean coal tax credits for the last 20 years. We, these things are. Out there, right? Modified accelerated cost recovery systems, the macros tax, that’s been since 1986. And that’s for any advanced gas play like, uh, that actually subsidizes fracking.

So these, the, the, the idea that you have different parts of the, basically energy supply chain attacking each other is. It’s silly to me.

Allen Hall 2025: I think it goes beyond that too, Joel, because the US uh, trade talks with the UK and with Australia, it sounds like, uh, the [00:24:00] US administration is telling, uh, countries that could be LNG offtake.

I. Countries to stop building wind. Why are you building wind? Have you, have you seen those articles, Joel? Like why is the US telling the uk, why are you building wind? You should stop building wind. Well, the reason you would want them to stop building wind is so they can buy l and g. That’s why you would do that.

So they become dependent. Dependent on us. Exactly. So you can sell this product because otherwise you don’t have a marketplace for it. So if. If the goal is to raise cash United States relatively quickly by pumping LNG and oil and whatever else, something you can export, that’s why you’d have to do it.

And you need to bring more money into the country than goes out Selling petroleum is a way to do that. You have to cut off all the renewables. You can’t have Australia run on solar if you wanna sell ‘

Joel Saxum: em some l and g. It’s a power play, right? Because I’ll take some words from my, my buddy Kevin Doffing over at Project Vanguard.

Energy Independence is national security, [00:25:00] right? So if we, if we start talking to the UK, to Australia and say, oh, don’t do wind, just buy gas from us. Well, if they did that, then they become dependent on us for their energy needs and therefore their national security needs. I, if I was there, my BI was there, I’d say, get outta my office.

I don’t wanna talk to

Allen Hall 2025: you. That’s the higher level discussion, which I don’t hear in the press at all. I mean, ’cause they’re not thinking at that level. They’re all arguing about what Elon Musk says, and we’re missing the bigger picture that I think the United States is really pushing LNG really pushing petroleum to try to bring more revenue to the United States to help the economy in the United States.

And it’s a quick bandage on what’s been happening over the last 15, 20 years. That’s where it’s headed and that all the trade discussions that are happening seem to be revolving around oil. ’cause that’s the fastest way you’re gonna be able to generate revenue from the United States perspective. Because you can turn it on like that.

You can turn it on. Right. So the drill, baby drill mantra, that’s been. [00:26:00]talked about for the last really two years, it’s gonna come into action. But the problem with that approach is that China’s gonna build more solar panels. China’s gonna build more wind turbines. The Europeans are gonna build more wind turbines, and they’re gonna use a lot more solar panels, and there may not be a market for that petroleum product.

So the administration of the United States has to, has to cut that off.

Joel Saxum: I’m going down a rabbit hole here. Spin up the US petroleum production capabilities, which you, we already have. We can do, we got drill, drill and rigs sitting by it’s turn taps on. Like you can make it move, but you’re gonna make it move based on price.

What is the thing that makes the price? What is the thing that makes the price go up if, if people aren’t buying or if

Allen Hall 2025: even if they are, I think what’s we’re gonna find out over the next probably six weeks, I think what’s gonna happen in some of these trade negotiations that that’s gonna be a pivotable element.

Of the discussions is gonna be the purchase of petroleum from the United [00:27:00] States. That’s why I think a lot of these negotiations have been so drawn out because the thing that a, that the administration wants to sell today is a product that Australia and a lot of countries don’t need, but they’re still going to buy some of it.

I, I guarantee you, Australia can get cheaper l and g from Qatar than they can can gain from us. Exactly. Isn’t that how you’re going to tell if that is the American play? If a country like Australia who should not be buying LNG from the United States starts buying LNG from the United States, that I think is the instantaneous tell that that is where the US is trying to go to help offset all the deficit and everything else that’s going on.

I don’t. I’m not in agreement with the plague, as I think that’s a play you could have made in 1980. I don’t think you can do it in 2025. I think it’s gonna be a much [00:28:00] harder to do because countries are more electrically independent than ever before.

Rosemary Barnes: Yeah. I mean, this, Australia’s got similar decisions to make and I’ve been beating my head against the wall for 20 years.

I’m like, you can’t just force the rest of the world to keep on buying our coal, that the energy transition is happening, or at least it will happen or not based on. Things that are well beyond our control. So, you know, for us to dig our heels in and be like, no, coal’s amazing forever. Like, that’s great. If you’re only using your own coal, you can make that decision.

But when most of the value of Australian coal is by, you know, comes from selling it, uh, to other countries, that’s, you know, they, we can’t force them to keep on buying it. Um, I think Australia is, uh, may maybe does understand that now. Um, I, I don’t see as much, um. Yeah, burying the head in the sand kind of business as usual is even a possibility.

I don’t see that so much anymore, but yeah, I do feel like this latest, um, yeah, play from the US is [00:29:00] maybe a bit like, like you said, from the, it’s from the 1980s. It’s,

Allen Hall 2025: it’s part of is happening, which it helps explain it. I think the problem I, I have is no one’s explaining what’s happening. So when you see these moves, you’re like, why?

Why are we talking to the UK about l and g? Why are we talking to other countries about l and g? Why are we telling them not to put wind in? Why are we trying to crush wind in the United States? Why are the oil and gas folks in the United States so insistent that we tear down the existing wind farms? I don’t disagree with

Phil Totaro: what you’re saying about a lot of this, the, the.

But this goes back to what I keep saying and everybody thinks that I’m some kind of China apologist because of it. And it’s like the whole reason that they’re able to gain prominence is exactly because of the fact that they’re going out there, they are filling the void, that the US is left with foreign aid, they’re going out there and filling the void that we’re leaving by, you know, trying to.[00:30:00]

The harder of a time we give all these other foreign countries, the more they’re gonna look to whatever alternative seems more viable. And if we keep running around, pissing everybody off, then they’re just gonna stop and, and start doing something that is more independent from us than it ever has been before.

Which ties back to what you just said about, uh, you know, every, if you look at everybody’s energy independence, it is increasing. Because they’re doing more to deploy, whether it’s renewable energy technologies or just more domestic consumption of, of resources, there is less and less of an energy trade imbalance than there ever has been in the history of the world.

And that’s only gonna continue. And at the end of the day, you’re, eh. You know, everybody’s going to have energy and electricity, self-sufficiency and independence, and if we don’t continue to do what we have done [00:31:00] as, as a country, then China is gonna dominate the, the, the world. So. You know, this is why I keep saying it’s a choice.

Like their government makes a choice to support their industry because they see this as the wave of the future, and they’ve made a choice. We are making a different choice, and I think it’s the wrong one.

Allen Hall 2025: I think this is only like for gonna last for a year or two. Like it. The economics will not play out in the way that the United States wants it.

Well, that’s gonna do for this week’s Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. Uh. Prince Harry and and Phil are gonna have a good time over the 4th of July, and we’ll see you here next week on the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast.

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How to Go Solar in Australian Apartments for 2025

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For many Australians, a home is more than just a place to live. It’s their most valuable asset and a powerful long-term investment for the future.  

However, in Australia, maintaining and upgrading your property not only enhances your lifestyle but can also protect and even increase its market value significantly. 

One such upgrade that’s gaining popularity is solar energy. According to recent surveys, 85% of Australians believe that installing solar panels can increase property value.  

Also, the data backs it up: homes with solar systems can sell up to 20% faster than those without, and in some cases, each kilowatt of solar installed can add up to $6,000 to the resale value. 

However, the actual impact of solar panels on property value depends on several factors, including the type and quality of the solar panel system, installation costs, your geographical location, and local energy prices. 

Whether you’re planning to sell or not, installing solar panels can be a smart investment. It lowers energy bills, reduces your carbon footprint, and increases your home’s appeal to environmentally conscious buyers. 

Curious whether solar panels really boost property value and how they do it? 

Let’s dive in!

Why Australians Prefer Solar Panels on Their Properties?

As Australia becomes more focused on sustainability due to climate change issues, many homeowners are embracing solar power. According to the Clean Energy Regulator, one in four Australian homes has solar panels installed on their roofs.  

Solar installations have increased these homes’ resale values, making them not only an environmental choice but also a strategic financial investment for homeowners. 

Here are some compelling reasons why solar can be a game-changer for Australian households: 

  1. The country’s record‑breaking sunshine

Several Australian cities, such as Brisbane, Victoria, Queensland, Perth, and much of regional NSW, bask in consistent sunshine.  

These weather conditions, with high sun exposure, make solar panels highly efficient, generating a huge amount of power throughout the year. 

  1. Australia’s rising electricity costs

In Australia, rising electricity costs make the case for solar stronger than ever. Solar offers a way to gain control over energy expenses, ensuring energy independence.   

Many homeowners see this energy transition as an effective and affordable solution. 

  1. Extensive Government support for renewable energy

The Australian government has introduced several state and federal incentives, like solar feed‑in tariffs, interest‑free loans, discounts, and home battery rebate schemes.  

These financial aids have driven the solar adoption rate, reducing the high upfront cost of installing solar panels. 

  1. Growing Environmental responsibility

Australians are growing increasingly aware of climate change, pushing them toward greener lifestyles and home ownership strategies. 

This consciousness ultimately reduces the carbon emission rates, bringing savings in energy costs and building community resilience.  

The Financial Factor: How Solar Translates More in Your Pocket?

How Solar Translates to More in Your Pocket

Yes, solar panels elevate your property’s value. But this value boost doesn’t come from simply installing a few panels on the roof.  

The type of system, its cost, your home’s location, and even the local climate all play critical roles in determining the financial return on your solar investment. 

Here’s how solar adds to property values: 

  • Solar Panel Lower ongoing costs 

Houses with solar panels can save thousands per year on their electricity bills. Depending on system size, consumption pattern, and geographical location, the bills can drop up to 70–80 % when solar is used. 

  • Adding Solar Systems to Properties can Boost the Selling Price. 

Australian data suggests properties with solar panels can sell for up to 3 to 4 % more, especially if the installation is owned instead of leased.  

For example, on a $900,000 home, the owner can get $27,000 to $36,000 additional resale value. 

  • Promotes Faster Sales 

Green-certified and energy‑efficient smart homes often require less time and are valued by buyers. They are aesthetically pleasing and easy to maintain, which attracts more clients, making the selling process easier.  
 

Beyond the Numbers: The Intangible Appeal of Solar

Undoubtedly, Australia’s sun‑soaked landscapes make it a dream canvas for solar energy. From creating jobs, enhancing energy security, to cutting power bills, the tangible benefits are well known to all. 

But even when dollars and cents matter, solar offers much more than that! So, let’s explore why solar is more than just a smart financial investment. 

Aesthetic and community status 

Solar panels aren’t just functional; they reflect modern living, independence, and care for the environment. In eco-conscious communities, they make a strong impression that resonates well. 

Solar panels with batteries Offer Peace of mind 
Installing Solar panels reduces your heavy dependence on the grid. During long power outages, homes with solar, especially those with battery storage, can keep some lights and essential appliances running. 

For some, solar batteries offer even greater freedom, making it possible to live comfortably off the grid and maintain energy independence year-round. 

The solar system makes life more convenient 

Worried about peak-time rates every time while tapping the switch? 

Solar, especially when combined with smart meters or home automation, can bring a more streamlined lifestyle where you don’t have to be stressed about your energy use. They give instant readings and update everything from time to time.  

A Real Estate Bonus 

For real estate professionals, solar panels are a headline attraction that can draw attention even among buyers unfamiliar with solar tech. 

Though harder to quantify, these non‑financial values enhance the buying and ownership experience for many Australians. Also, these future-ready homes align with Australia’s 2050 net-zero strategy and energy-positive living.

How Much Does Solar Increase Property Value?

According to a survey, the number of solar panels installed on a home’s rooftop increases its value. Each 1kW of solar installed can increase the value of your home by up to $6,000, and a 5kW installation can add $29,000.  

As said before, Solar panels can add 3 to 4% to the value of your property. For example, if your home is worth $300,000, the increase in value could range from $9,000 to $12,000.  

So, how much will a 6.6 kW and a 10-kW solar panel system save you? 

  • A 6.6kW solar panel system can save you $1,000–$2,000 annually, equating to $20,000–$40,000 in added home value over time. 
  • A 10-kW system can save around $4,000/year, further supporting high-value appreciation. 

Aside from the monetary value added by solar panels, properties with solar panels sell up to 20% faster than those without.  

While the initial investment is high, solar panels can significantly reduce, if not eliminate, your monthly utility bills. These ongoing energy savings are an excellent addition to increased property value.   

However, you can use an STC calculator or seek professional help if you’re wondering how much money you could save by installing solar panels. 

Key Factors to Consider Before Purchasing a Home with Solar Panels

Buying a home with solar panels can be a smart move, but only if you know what to look for. Behind the promise of clean energy and lower bills, there are several underlying things that can make or break your investment.  

Here’s what you need to know to avoid any issues and make the most of your solar-powered home. 

  1. Age of the Solar System: It’s important to know how old the solar system is, as this can impact both performance and remaining lifespan. 
  2. Type of Inverter Used: Understanding what kind of inverter is used helps assess efficiency, reliability, and potential maintenance needs. 
  3. Installation Details: Find out who installed the panels to ensure the system was set up by a reputable and certified installer. 
  4. Warranty Coverage: Confirm whether the solar panels, inverter, and other components are still under warranty, and if those warranties are transferable to new homeowners. 
  5. Energy Production: Calculate how much energy the system produces annually to determine if it meets the home’s electricity needs. 
  6. Battery Storage: Check whether the system includes a battery, which can provide backup power and increase energy independence. 
  7. Ownership Structure: Determine whether the solar panels are owned or leased, because this affects costs, responsibilities, and potential savings. 
  8. Cost Implications: Evaluate whether you’re paying a premium for the solar system as part of the home’s purchase price, and whether the energy savings justify that cost.
  9. Eligibility for Tax Incentives: Before purchasing a home with an existing solar system, clarify whether you’ll be eligible for any tax credits or local incentives.  

Maximize Your Home’s Value with Solar: 6 Simple Steps to Sell Smarter!

In Australia, if you’re planning to sell your solar-powered home in 2025, there are a few simple steps you can take to boost its appeal and get the best possible return. 

So, are you ready to cash in on your solar investment? Here’s how to maximize its value! 

Step 1: Gather all the necessary documentation. 

This includes installation reports, capacity details, warranty contracts, and inverter/service records. 

Step 2: Highlight ownership 

Make it clear that you own the panels with authentic supporting documents. Ensure the buyer that it’s not leased. 

Step 3: Update or expand if needed 

Consider adding panels, inverters, or syncing with a battery, especially if your existing system is small or aged. 
Step 4: Offer a pre‑sale inspection 

Provide a basic electrician or installer to check with your customers, ensuring everything is functional and worry‑free. It’s a great way to attract buyers.

Step 5: Show the total running‑cost savings documentation 
Show buyers the last 6–12 months of electricity bills alongside solar production statistics. Explain the benefits of solar panels clearly and highlight the savings.

Step 6: Work with a Knowledgeable Agent 

Choose a real estate agent who understands the value of solar panels and can effectively communicate these benefits to potential buyers.  

A Bright Future for Solar Homes in Australia 2025

In the end, it all adds up to one clear outcome that solar panels are a fantastic investment for Australian homeowners. It’s not just for personal energy savings but also for enhancing property value.  

So, if you’re on the fence about going solar, consider this: you’re not just installing panels on your roof; you’re adding a valuable asset. 

But remember! For buyers, verifying system ownership, warranties, and performance data is key. On the flip side, for sellers, leveraging documentation, installations, and green‑savvy marketing can maximize profit. 

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Nordex USA has reopened its wind turbine plant in Iowa, while Alliant Energy plans to add up to one gigawatt of wind generation in the state. GE Vernova’s 18 megawatt turbine has been approved for testing and the UK has greenlit the 1.5 gigawatt Mona Offshore Wind Farm.

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Good news for Iowa’s clean energy sector.

Nordex USA celebrated the reopening of its wind turbine plant in West Branch, Iowa on Tuesday. The plant now employs more than one hundred workers. They’re producing the company’s first U.S.-made turbines.

Manav Sharma is Nordex’s North American C.E.O. He says the company is committed to Iowa for the long term.

The plant had been closed since twenty thirteen. Nordex bought the facility in twenty sixteen and spent months retrofitting it. The plant will produce parts for five-megawatt turbines. Production capacity is planned to exceed two point five gigawatts annually.

The reopening comes despite federal debates about renewable energy tax credits.

Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds noted that sixty six percent of Iowa’s power comes from renewable energy. That’s the highest percentage in the US.

Alliant Energy also has big plans for wind power in Iowa.

The company filed a plan with the Iowa Utilities Commission to add up to one gigwatt of wind generation.

Mayuri Farlinger is president of Alliant’s Iowa energy company. She says expanding wind energy will help them deliver reliable and cost-effective power to customers.

Alliant plans to own and operate the new wind projects. The company expects the projects to create construction jobs and provide payments to landowners. They’ll also generate new tax revenue for counties where the turbines are built.

The Iowa Utilities Commission is expected to make a decision in the first quarter of twenty twenty six.

Norway is testing the one of world’s biggest wind turbine.

Norwegian regulator N.V.E. approved GE Vernova subsidiary Georgine Wind plans for an eighteen-megawatt turbine in the municipality of Gulen.

NVE says this is the largest wind turbine ever approved in Norway. It’s also the first to be licensed inside an existing industrial area.

The turbine will have a rotor diameter of up to two hundred fifty meters. The maximum tip height will be two hundred seventy five meters.

The turbine will undergo testing for five years before switching to standard commercial operation for another twenty five years.

The United Kingdom has approved its largest Irish Sea wind farm.

Energy Secretary Ed Miliband granted planning consent for the Mona offshore wind farm. The project is owned by B.P. and EnBW. It will feature ninety six turbines off northwest England.

The one point five gigawatt project could power more than one million homes with clean energy. It’s expected to begin production between twenty twenty eight and twenty twenty nine.

Miliband says this shows the government is backing builders, not blockers.

B.P. and EnBW are also waiting for approval of a neighboring wind farm called Morgan. That decision is due by September tenth.

The developers have been paying option fees of one hundred fifty four thousand pounds per megawatt per year since January twenty twenty three.

Richard Sandford is B.P.’s Vice President of Offshore Wind. He says this approval brings them closer to delivering large-scale, low-carbon energy critical to the U.K.’s net zero goals.

That’s this week’s top news story.

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