GE Vernova Restructures Offshore Wind Division
Allen, Joel, and Phil dissect GE Vernova’s restructuring of its offshore wind operations, potentially cutting 900 jobs globally. What will be the implications for the US and international wind energy markets? They also share key insights from the Sandia Blades Workshop, emphasizing the importance of prescriptive operations and digitizing tribal knowledge. Enter to win a bunch of Yeti and StrikeTape swag at https://weatherguardwind.com/yeti!
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Just visit weatherguardwind.com/yeti. Phil, have you been to the National Toy Hall of Fame in Rochester, New York?
Philip Totaro: I have not.
Allen Hall: Oh my gosh, you’re missing out because they have the finalists, the twelfth finalists for induction into the National Toy Hall of Fame this year. And they include, are you ready?
Drum roll please. Balloons, Pokemon cards, your own adventure books, which is a particular kind of interesting book. Hess toy trucks, which we see at Christmas time here in the United States. My Little Pony, which should have been an entrance a long time ago, honestly. How is that not already in there?
Exactly my point. Remote control vehicles, stick horses, trampolines, and probably one of Joel’s favorite, Transformers. I’m a Transformers fan.
Hang on, let’s go back to stick horses for a second, because again, how long has this museum been, or Hall of Fame been in business? I mean, are they, they’re digging up some pretty legacy toy technology there.
Stick horses are back. Have you seen those competitions of, where people are riding the stick horses over a competitive course where they’re hopping over things and running around?
Philip Totaro: There are some people that think that the United States Is not going in the right direction. I think these people are probably steering us in exactly where we don’t need to be.
Joel Saxum: Allen, when you said that the Toy Hall of Fame, I looked over at my bookshelf and I have to, I went and grabbed this toy, because to me, this is American Toy Hall of Fame material. This was, this toy was my dad’s when he was a kid. And this is the original Mound, Minnesota built Tonka trucks.
Allen Hall: I think we all need to take a moment and observe and salute the old Tonka truck.
I
Philip Totaro: will salute that.
Joel Saxum: Working tailgate, I’m telling you, that’s it right there.
Philip Totaro: That’s a toy.
Joel Saxum: It even says USA on the tires.
Allen Hall: Made out of American steel and the edges are sharp like they should be.
I’m Allen Hall and here are this week’s top stories. In a significant corporate development, the Spanish government has authorized BlackRock’s stake in Natergy. This follows BlackRock’s acquisition of GIP, which owns 20. 6 percent of the Spanish energy company. The approval comes with conditions, including support for energy transition projects and maintaining Natergy’s headquarters in Spain.
This move positions BlackRock as a major player in Spain’s energy sector. Denmark has inaugurated two new offshore wind farms. Vesterhavnord and Vesterhavnsyd, developed by Vattenfall, these farms feature 41 wind turbines with a combined capacity of 344 megawatts. Located between 5 and 10 kilometers from the Danish west coast, they will generate 1.
5 terawatt hours of electricity annually, enough to power 350, 000 households. This addition brings Vattenfall’s total offshore wind capacity in Denmark to 1. 5 gigawatts. Marking a substantial increase in the country’s renewable energy output and a boost for the North American wind industry. The Canadian port of Argentina has secured a contract to handle wind turbine blades for U.
S. East Coast offshore wind farms. The port will receive and store 220 wind turbine blades starting this fall and continuing into 2025. This agreement with ScanGlobal Logistics positions Argentina as a key player in the offshore wind supply chain, building on its previous contract for monopile marshalling and strengthening the infrastructure for wind energy development in North America.
In Canada, Marmot Energy is restarting wind tower manufacturing activities in Quebec. A new wind project will add 100 jobs to the facility and install 56 Vestas turbines generating 350 megawatts of renewable energy. The 1 billion project is set to begin construction in 2025 with commissioning planned for next year.
Moving to Hawaii, AES Hawaii reports success with a new bat deterrent system at its Kahuku Wind Farm on Oahu. The project uses an ultrasonic mechanism on its turbines to keep bats away. Since operations began in December 2020, only one bat strike has been recorded. The project’s eight turbines, reaching 40 stories high, generate enough power for 16, 000 homes.
Breaking news. And in the UK, an investigation is underway following a collision between a service operation vessel and a wind turbine at Oersted’s Hornsea One wind farm. The incident involved a Wind of Hope vessel carrying 72 people. No injuries or pollution were reported, but damage was sustained to the vessel and to the turbine base.
That’s this week’s top news stories. After the break, I’ll be joined by my co host, CEO and founder of IntelStor, Phil Totaro, and the Chief Commercial Officer of WeatherGuard Lightning Tech, Joel Saxum. As wind energy professionals, staying informed is crucial, and let’s face it, difficult. That’s why the Uptime Podcast recommends PES Wind magazine.
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com. And if you’re over in Hamburg, And looking at the exhibitions all over the floors there, a big part of that exhibition is about offshore wind. And one of the issues with offshore wind is the tooling that has to live out there. And an article from Hamatro, who makes hydraulic tooling that’s made for offshore they have a really interesting description of what they do and all the processes and application tools that they have to have hydraulic tools in an offshore environment, because as Joel knows, anytime you get saltwater and moving hydraulics, it is a disaster.
Joel Saxum: Corrosion
Allen Hall: central.
Joel Saxum: Yeah. One of the things to think about or to understand here is that when you get in an offshore operating environment, not only like Allen says is the salt water, the wave heights, the bad, moving things around with lifts and all this stuff. It’s a very difficult environment to operate in, but almost everything.
And this is where it makes it difficult. Almost every tool you use offshore for construction or decommissioning for that matter is custom built. And you’re dealing with really large things. It’s not like you go to snap on and say, Hey, give me this tool or Milwaukee tool. Hey, give me this thing.
And we’ll, and yeah, we may, we make a hundred thousand of these and we’ll sell you one, every single piece of equipment that goes offshore in these large applications is custom built for the application. So whether it’s decommissioning or construction. You have to make it usually these things are designed in like a front end study.
So someone like home mantra will get involved with a wind farm that’s being built years. Sometimes ahead of when they actually think it’s out there, because they need to develop the tool. They need to build the tool. They need to test the tool. They need to get it ready to roll before that thing is.
Gets out moving that construction project because you don’t get to just run to Home Depot and buy a new tool. Everything has to be custom built. And the other side of this thing is what whole mottro does is their hydraulic specialists. In the offshore world, hydraulics is the only thing that you really can, Make the kind of power, create the kind of power that you need to cut, to move, to, straighten out a monopile or to crush something down or connect something because electric pumps or just don’t do it.
A lot of the times in a subsea environment, you’re having a, what’s called a work class ROV, the remotely operated vehicle, becomes the hands, the eyes, the ears, the everything in that subsea realm. And a work class ROV will usually be like 150 horsepower is what they call it, but that 150 horsepower Is driving hydraulic pumps.
And if you’ve ever seen like a house lifting jack or a car jack or something, that’s all hydraulics. And there’s the only way to control that kind of power. But these guys are a specialist, this Homatro company that’s in PS when this magazine this month, they’re specialists in creating these special, these.
Specific tools that are needed for specific actions on an offshore wind farm for from construction all the way through decommissioning. Yeah. 1 of the things that whole matro focuses on is in house R and D and innovation and that can go really far into making sure as a client of someone like this. So I’ve seen places where some of the engineering gets farmed out here.
Some of the engineering gets farmed out there. A piece gets built here. You put things together here and the companies that usually provide tools that just simply work and work day in and day out are the ones that have controlled the design and build and deployment process from start to finish. And that’s what Homatro does.
Bringing quality to the to the offshore wind market.
Allen Hall: So check out the latest PES wind magazine at PESwind. com. GE Vernova has announced a major restructuring of its offshore wind operations and the company plans to downsize its global workforce in the offshore sector, potentially affecting around 900 jobs out of an estimated 1700 employees involved in offshore.
In France, about 360 positions will be cut in two facilities that represents about 60 percent of the employees between those two facilities, somewhere 50 60%. The restructuring as it’s being explained today is in response to challenges in the offshore wind sector, obviously inflation, supply chain disruptions, and some project delays.
And with the offshore wind division having financial difficulties and expected to lose about 300 million dollars in the third quarter, the Vernova heads of the company are thinking about, Really reducing the offshore business greatly and Phil, I think this has a couple of implications Globally particularly in the US right now where GE has been selected to do a couple of offshore projects and then What’s happening internationally if for Nova reduces its offshore Manufacturing capability are they going to aggressively go after business or are they going to sit on the sidelines for a while?
Philip Totaro: No, I Allen I think it Indicates they’re potentially going to sit on the sidelines and they may still maintain, a sales force in, emerging markets that they want to be in, like Australia, for instance or even South Korea but operationally, I question how they’re going to be able to execute without getting the order book built up in those markets in the first place.
The reason why they’re largely targeting Europe and potentially the U. S. is there have been some, in the U. S. there have been some project cancellations where, G. E. turbines were going to be utilized. There are also projects where leading light that has delayed the project as a result of GE indicating that they’re not going to develop the 18 megawatt variant of the turbine, which to be blunt, I find a little curious because he, there’s not that much difference.
On LCOE between a 15 and a half megawatt turbine. Yeah, you’re gonna save yourself some capex on foundations, but it’s not actually that great of a gulf. So I’m getting the sense that maybe there’s something else going on there. But for GE’s benefit, they just haven’t been getting the orders, particularly in Europe.
So they’re getting through Dogger Bank. They’re getting through some of the, big and small projects that they have lined up in France. But after that, I am not seeing them getting significant orders in, for instance, Holland or Germany, where, and even some of the emerging projects in Sweden and Norway and elsewhere in Denmark, they want to be able to play in those markets, but they’ve been unsuccessful due to competition from Siemens Gomesa and or Festus.
So the industry keeps saying they want, multiple supply chain options, but if they’re not going to give GE the order book, then this is the inevitable consequence of that.
Joel Saxum: Yeah. In this press release that we’re following along with here, one of the things they say is they are experiencing lower than expected volume.
And that’s a and that part of that is delays in known projects, but some of it is just, they’re not getting the new ones. And we’ve talked before about other brands and when things happen that are, in the recent news, right? Like we’ve seen Vineyard win. We’ve seen the Dogger Bank blade issues.
They also go on to say in this press release that the company will continue to allocate resources to support existing projects, including quality control issues affecting its plates. So there’s they know they have that issue. And what that points to me is wounded brand, which we’ve used that comment before, but it’s something to look at, right?
If you’re going to be developing a project right now, and you’re picking your turbines, and you’ve seen 3 blade failures on the Haliide platform offshore for GE Vernova. You’re going to get the hair on your back of your neck up a little bit about that. So that is something also that’s driving that lower than expected volume of order book.
So it’s a tough spot to be in. I know as GE Vernova, the spinoff last spring from aerospace and health, and what they’ve done as a GE as a whole. But now we’ve seen massive layoffs at the on the LM side of things, some plants closing, GE getting rid of a bunch of other engineers. So they continue to whittle down at the massive tree that was GE to get to something more profitable.
But as it sits right now, it’s tough to look forward in a crystal ball and see how, what’s going to happen in a few years or how they’re going to arrive at this profitability and then come out of it stronger.
Philip Totaro: GE Vernova was in a period where. They went through something similar with the onshore wind business as well, where they had supply chain pressures and other profitability pressures that caused them to really scale back the size of the business, the size of their product portfolio, et cetera.
I think with the lack of order book, it’s just again and an inevitable consequence of saying, all right, we’re going to focus more on profitability. And this is what that entails. We can’t employ, these 900 people globally, if we’re just not getting the order volumes, we anticipated part of that again is because of interest rates.
But I don’t it’s interesting because like in the past few days prior to this announcement, Wall Street was already, pumping up Vernova’s stock, and it’s almost like they had, some, maybe, knowledge that, that this sort of announcement was coming, because typically, Wall Street Actually likes layoffs because they think it leads to more profitability.
And so even as horrible as that sounds for the people, working in the factories that is the cold hard reality of, equity investors they like to see companies downsizing, if it means that they’re going to be more profitable and. That’s the direction that GE Vernova feels like they, they have to go at this point.
And, again, without the order book I can’t blame them. It’s basically a scenario where, again they’ll scale back up, either when interest rates come down more, and more capital starts flowing, But keep in mind as well, we can also pin this on, New York and New Jersey a little bit playing a lot of baseball with, project developers.
The factory commitments that GE had made a lot of the jobs that we’re talking about right here would have been either preserved or even increased had those factories moved forward. But project cancellations or delays in the U. S. has resulted in. A lot of this if you’re going to the voting booth in November, remember that when it comes time to tick the box for, the governors in the states of New Jersey and
Joel Saxum: New York.
I think the one thing that we need to make sure we focus on here as well as GE has stated for these projects that are under development. They’re going to have the resources that they need to fulfill the contractual obligations right there for the upcoming years. No problems with what’s going to happen to make sure that the things that they’ve got going right now are going to continue to they want to execute the projects in a timely manner, keeping safety and quality at the forefront.
This makes GE Varnova stronger. And
Allen Hall: the next couple of years.
Philip Totaro: It does, or it eliminates resources that they’re really going to need when the time comes to, execute on things it’s, you’re seeing this right now with some of these challenges that they do have with Vineyard Wind and Dogger Bank with the blades, because a lot of the engineers at LM that would be responsible for potentially designing and fixing some of these.
Again, whether they were operational issues or, manufacturing issues or what have you, you still need engineers to, to help you fix that you can’t lay everybody off and then just have salespeople say we’ll, still be able to maintain our contractual commitments.
You know the asset owners and operators and more importantly probably the insurance companies aren’t stupid So even though it looks good to investors you also have to balance that with actually being able to fill your contractual obligations
Joel Saxum: I think you’ll see that the same thing that you see in a lot of situations like this whether it’s wind or the Doesn’t matter aerospace sector or anything Is a lot of these people, as soon as that next project ramps back up, you’re going to see a bunch of contractors, quote, unquote, getting hired by GE, which is going to be the exact engineers that just laid off, just writing them contracts to come back and work temporarily.
Cause that’s the smarter way to do things right now.
Allen Hall: There’s a high demand for these skilled positions, engineering technicians, even people laying up blades. They’re hard to find. There’s a lot of opportunity out there. And if it’s not with GE Vernova today, it’s worth. One of the other manufacturers that will be going into offshore and I kind of wonder Phil if they intend to eventually sell off.
The factories that are in France and consolidate in Canada and in the U S
Philip Totaro: that’s complicated because they, going back about 10 years to when GE was merging with Alstom, there were a lot of promises made and the whole reason that the factories got built in St. Nazaire and Cherbourg and France.
Was because of the commitments that GE had to make to the French government not to lay people off in the first place. So we’re getting 10 years later and now a lot of those layoffs that, that potentially could have happened back then are happening now. But I, it’s, that gets tricky when you start talking about the unions in Europe especially, because they still have quite a lot of power.
Joel Saxum: The interesting thing we heard at Sandia this week, Allen, was one of our respected friends in the blade world looking for a new engineering colleague, and the end of the job thing, or job posting basically was, Do they know what glass fiber is? Perfect. We’ll train him on the rest.
Allen Hall: That’s the reality though, Joel, is that people who have that knowledge are already working somewhere and it’s hard to find people to come into the industry and you’re willing to take about anybody at the minute that has particularly an engineering degree or any technical training in composites.
It’s going to get pulled into a company.
Philip Totaro: I don’t think it’s just them necessarily trying to get trained up with other OEMs or supply chain companies in particular, there’s also a pretty big demand amongst independent service providers or potentially even owner operators who would want to staff up with somebody that’s got expertise, particularly in how certain models of blades or whatever were designed and manufactured.
Yeah, so that could afford some of these people an opportunity to go in there and continue scaling up in the services business or the aftermarket parts businesses that are seeing a tremendous amount of growth right now globally.
Allen Hall: Did the blade mold getting broken in Cherbourg
Philip Totaro: a couple of months ago kick off this process?
Hard to say. To be honest, it let’s put it this way, it doesn’t help, but that was probably more of just an industrial accident sort of a thing, but it came at an unfortunate time when they were already facing so much pressure to deliver on Dogger Bank. And that’s the reality of that.
I think it just was unfortunate timing.
Joel Saxum: It’s a lot of weight, right? You get enough things stacked, and stacked, that was the first one on the bottom of the pile, and then you lose a couple of blades offshore, and the global market situation, some other things, once they compound the sum of the parts It’s a lot heavier than the parts themselves.
Allen Hall: When we come back from the break, I want to talk about our experience at the Sandia Blades Workshop this past week. And all the things that Joel and I learned and saw, and hopefully we’ll see you again in two years, because it was a really good conference.
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Allen Hall: All right, Joel. So we just spent the week at the Sandia blade workshop in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And we met with a lot of colleagues. It was like the creme de la creme of blade and wind engineers in one place, particularly in the United States. Many good presentations. Some more on the technical side, but others on the operational side and the operational Part is the one I think you and I were drawn into the most.
Joel Saxum: Yeah. You bring together Sandia brings together a lot of academics. It brings together our national labs here in the United States. But what they’re doing at these labs is they’re working on all kinds of crazy projects. Some of these labs are ones that have, they’ve worked on DOD things for the military.
Or they’ve worked on nuclear energy for other purposes. They’re working on looking at things in the grid and what is next? And so you bring those people together. And the people that want to hear from what’s happening at these labs are some of the best, like Allen said, some of the best engineers in blades or anything to do with wind turbines from the bigger, biggest and small operators all over the United States.
When you put those people together, you start getting into DTU and TU Delft and all kinds of other Universities that are doing project as well. So you end up, that the thing is put on by Sandia National Lab So you hear about a lot about what they’re doing and some of the other national labs and some of those Presentations get really in depth On the projects that they’re working on.
And because some people, people want to come in here. What’s the next thing. But then you also, since you have those great engineers sitting there in the crowd of course they take advantage of them being there. And then those awesome engineers are sitting on panels and they’re talking about the things that they’re doing to help other people out in the crowd.
So you have, the likes of next era and RWE these big players sitting up on stage. Telling everybody, basically, these are the problems we’ve encountered, this is the solutions that we had from them, and that’s, that tribal knowledge gets spread out amongst the crowd, so it’s like a, we always like to say, floating or rising waters floats all ships.
It’s a great conference, and there’s a lot of good information that goes on there.
Allen Hall: The one repeating focus, I thought, was the need to be very prescriptive on operations. Whether that be in the factory or out in the field there was a lot of emphasis on almost a checklist mentality of how to approach any sort of construction, any repair effort, any supply chain issue, any real large manufacturing is to eliminate it.
Problems by and variability because it’s the number of people coming in and out of any job site, whether it be in the factory out in the field, which should delineate what has to happen up front and to be very precise and controlled over it. And Matt Segala gave a really good presentation from EDF.
About how to do this on repairs and wow, there’s a lot of emphasis on the work ahead of the work, all the preparation and knowing to plan ahead for, Hey, we may need another lightning receptor. So we should have those on stock when the truck, as we get out to the site, we’re probably going to need them.
That’s a learned experience, but if you haven’t done it, like Matt has. You wouldn’t know, and then you get to site and not have all the tools and the equipment you need. And that was a really great insight, I thought.
Joel Saxum: Yeah, Matt’s presentation, in my opinion, was the best one of the whole week. And he brought that, I’m gonna give a presentation, and I’m gonna tell you exactly what you need, or what you can do, to get the same kind of results that we have.
And part of that is, is, I said tribal knowledge a little bit ago. Part of that is, is taking tribal knowledge and turning it into process and into knowledge that can be passed down, right? Because if it just exists in Allen’s head, or Phil’s head, or Rosie’s head, or my head, and I go do a thing, then I’m the only one that has that information, and I’m the only one who can replicate it.
It doesn’t make sense for a large organization, especially when we see in the wind industry, we see so many people moving from place to place. We talk about it with technicians, but it happens with engineers a lot as well. Oh, this person was at this. Now they’re over here or they were at the OEM and now they work for this operator or whatever that may be.
They’re Matt and that team at EDF with Ken Lee and Trevor Angle and all these other guys over there are taking what they know, what they’ve learned from experience, and they’re writing it down. They’re putting roadmaps down, processes down. Being able to make sure that everybody can follow along and get the same results time after time and what he showed us With some statistics and some metrics at the end of that presentation shows that EDF’s fleet is benefiting greatly from what they’re doing in that process driven basically program.
Philip Totaro: So Joel, what you’re saying is a company that digitizes its tribal knowledge, whether it’s from a consulting business or an owner operator is probably ahead of the curve. Absolutely. You can quote that.
Allen Hall: Rhodes had done that too. Yannis Petroms had discussed what they do with the rooms because they deal with a lot of technology and new people coming in and out.
And the robots are really intricate. There’s a lot going on there. Video pressure sensors, they’re pushing out fluids, curing things. And yeah, they’re using a little on the phone checklist to make sure everything gets done properly. The one he mentioned in particular was making sure that the closeout was put back on, on the blade, make sure the doors were all closed and fastened before they left.
They had to physically take a photo and record it before they left the blade. And. Things like that don’t seem obvious until you have something go wrong, and then they become really obvious and then you implement them. Joel it’s a learned experience. So you gotta climb back up that
Joel Saxum: tower? And to put the blade closer on?
Yeah, that sucks. No, I think it’s I think it’s something that the industry can definitely benefit from, and at this conference, it was a technical conference, we didn’t talk about some of the issues that we normally talk about when you get industry professionals together What is the technician pool look like in the shortage of blade repair knowledge?
We didn’t really touch on those things, but this what we’re talking about here is digitizing and making processes and these kind of things that can actually help scale the industry because you’re removing some of those learning barriers by providing tools. For people to execute in their daily jobs.
Allen Hall: Yeah, it’s a good conference. And the next
Joel Saxum: conference is in two years Joel? Yeah, they do Sandia every two years. It’s in the same town. It’s in Albuquerque. The Sandia lab is right there. So that makes sense for less spending for the Sandia people to be there. But Albuquerque, man, we were there.
The weather was fantastic the whole time. We had a great time with a bunch of our industry colleagues. ISPs, operators, there’s some blade repair companies there. There was of course, some of the operators we regularly get with some drone companies and catching up with colleagues is always great, but what happens in the conference and the technical situations is fantastic.
The things that you can learn sitting around a table, having dinner with friends from different operators as well. We sat with. BP and Orsted and Nextera and Elite Clean Energy all around in one group and the things that you can learn from each other, just being able to share, to break bread with each other is fantastic as well.
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Boy, a lot of action in the US courts. And as you know, for weeks, American offshore wind has been holding its breath and a lot of people’s jobs are at stake right now. The Trump administration suspended, uh, five major projects on December 22nd, and still they’re still citing national security concerns.
Billions of dollars are really in balance here. Construction vessels for most of these. Sites are just doing nothing at the minute, but the courts are stepping in and Sted won a [00:01:00] key victory when the federal judge allowed its revolution wind project off the coast of Rhode Island to resume construction immediately.
So everybody’s excited there and it does sound like Osted is trying to finish that project as fast as they can. And Ecuador and Dominion Energy, which are two of the other bigger projects, are fighting similar battles. Ecuador is supposed to hear in the next couple of days as we’re recording. Uh, but the message is pretty clear from developers.
They have invested too much to walk away, and if they get an opportunity to wrap these projects up quickly. They are going to do it now. Joel, before the show, we were talking about vineyard wind and vineyard. Wind was on hold, and I think it, it may not even be on hold right now, I have to go back and look.
But when they were put on hold, uh, the question was, the turbines that were operating, were they able to continue operating? And the answer initially I thought was no. But it was yes, the, the turbines that were [00:02:00] producing power. We’re allowed to continue to produce powers. What was in the balance were the remaining turbines that were still being installed or, uh, being upgraded.
So there’s, there’s a lot going on right now, but it does seem like, and back to your earlier point, Joel, before we start talking and maybe you can discuss this, we, there is an offshore wind farm called Block Island really closely all these other wind farms, and it’s been there for four or five years at this point.
No one’s said anything about that wind farm.
Speaker: I think it’s been there, to be honest with you, since like 2016 or 17. It’s been there a long time. Is it that old? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we were talk, when we’ve been talking through and it gets lost in the shuffle and it shouldn’t, because that’s really the first offshore wind farm in the United States.
We keep talking about all these big, you know, utility scale massive things, but that is a utility scale wind farm as well. There’s fi, correct me if I’m wrong, Yolanda, is it five turbos or six? It’s five. Their decent sized turbines are sitting on jackets. They’re just, uh, they’re, they’re only a couple miles offshore.
They’re not way offshore. But throughout all of these issues that we’ve had, um, with [00:03:00] these injunctions and stopping construction and stopping this and reviewing permits and all these things, block Island has just been spinning, producing power, uh, for the locals there off the coast of Rhode Island. So we.
What were our, the question was is, okay, all these other wind farms that are partially constructed, have they been spinning? Are they producing power? And my mind goes to this, um, as a risk reduction effort. I wonder if, uh, the cable, if the cable lay timelines were what they were. Right. So would you now, I guess as a risk reduction effort, and this seems really silly to have to think about this.
If you have your offshore substation, was the, was the main export cable connected to some of these like revolution wind where they have the injunction right now? Was that export cable connected and were the inter array cables regularly connected to turbines and them coming online? Do, do, do, do, do. Like, it wasn’t like a COD, we turned the switch and we had to wait for all 62 turbines.
Right. So to our [00:04:00] knowledge and, and, uh, please reach out to any of us on LinkedIn or an email or whatever to our knowledge. The turbines that are in production have still have been spinning. It’s the construction activities that have been stopped, but now. Hey, revolution wind is 90% complete and they’re back out and running, uh, on construction activities as of today.
Speaker 2: It was in the last 48 hours. So this, this is a good sign because I think as the other wind farms go through the courts, they’re gonna essentially run through this, this same judge I that. Tends to happen because they have done all the research already. So you, you likely get the same outcome for all the other wind farms, although they have to go through the process.
You can’t do like a class action, at least that’s doesn’t appear to be in play at the minute. Uh, they’re all gonna have to go through this little bit of a process. But what the judge is saying essentially is the concern from the Department of War, and then the Department of Interior is. [00:05:00] Make believe. I, I don’t wanna frame it.
It’s not framed that way, the way it’s written. There’s a lot more legalistic terms about it. But it basically, they’re saying they tried to stop it before they didn’t get the result they wanted. The Trump administration didn’t get the result they wanted. So the Trump administration ramped it up by saying it was something that was classified in, in part of the Department of War.
The judge isn’t buying it. So the, the, the early action. I think what we initially talked about this, everybody, I think the early feeling was they’re trying to stop it, but the fact that they’re trying to stop it just because, and just start pulling permits is not gonna stand outta the court. And when they want to come back and do it again, they’re not likely to win.
If they would. Kept their ammunition dry and just from the beginning said it’s something classified as something defense related that Trump administration probably would’ve had a better shot at this. But now it just seems like everything’s just gonna lead down the pathway where all these projects get finished.
Speaker: Yeah, I think that specific judge probably was listening to the [00:06:00] Uptime podcast last week for his research. Um, listen to, to our opinions that we talked about here, saying that this is kind of all bs. It’s not gonna fly. Uh, but what we’re sitting at here is like Revolution Wind was, had the injunction against it.
Uh, empire Wind had an injunction again, but they were awaiting a similar ruling. So hopefully that’s actually supposed to go down today. That’s Wednesday. Uh, this is, so we’re recording this on Wednesday. Um, and then Dominion is, has, is suing as well, and their, uh, hearing is on Friday. In two, two days from now.
And I would expect, I mean, it’s the same, same judge, same piece of papers, like it’s going to be the same result. Some numbers to throw at this thing. Now, just so the listeners know the impact of this, uh, dominion for the Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind Project, they say that their pause in construction is costing them $5 million a day, and that is.
That’s a pretty round number. It’s a conservative number to be honest with you. For officer operations, how many vessels and how much stuff is out there? That makes sense. Yep. [00:07:00] 5 million. So $5 million a day. And that’s one of the wind farms. Uh, coastal, Virginia Wind Farm is an $11 billion project. With, uh, it’s like 176 turbines.
I think something to that, like it’s, it’s got enough power, it’s gonna have enough production out there to power up, like, uh, like 650,000 homes when it’s done. So there’s five projects suspended right now. I’m continuing with the numbers. Um, well, five, there’s four now. Revolution’s back running, right? So five and there’s four.
Uh, four still stopped. And of those five is 28. Billion dollars in combined capital at risk, right? So you can understand why some of these companies are worried, right? They’re this is, this is not peanuts. Um, so you saw a little bump in like Ted stock in the markets when this, this, uh, revolution wind, uh, injunction was stopped.
Uh, but. You also see that, uh, Moody’s is a credit [00:08:00] rating. They’ve lowered ORs, Ted’s um, rating from stable to negative, given that political risk.
Speaker 2: Well, if you haven’t been paying attention, wind energy O and m Australia 2026 is happening relatively soon. It’s gonna be February 17th and 18th. It’s gonna be at the Pullman Hotel downtown Melbourne.
And we are all looking forward to it. The, the roster and the agenda is, is nearly assembled at this point. Uh, we have a, a couple of last minute speakers, but uh, I’m looking at the agenda and like, wow, if you work in o and m or even are around wind turbines, this is the place to be in February. From my
Speaker: seat.
It’s pretty, it’s, it’s, it’s shaping up for pretty fun. My phone has just been inundated with text message and WhatsApp of when are you traveling? What are your dates looking forward to, and I wanna say this right, Rosie. Looking forward to Melvin. Did I get it? Did I do it okay.
Speaker 3: You know how to say it.
Speaker: So, so we’re, we’re really looking forward to, we’ve got a bunch of people traveling from around the [00:09:00] world, uh, to come and share their collective knowledge, uh, and learn from the Australians about how they’re doing things, what the, what the risks are, what the problems are, uh, really looking forward to the environment down there, like we had last year was very.
Collaborative, the conversations are flowing. Um, so we’re looking forward to it, uh, in a big way from our seats. Over here,
Speaker 2: we are announcing a lightning workshop, and that workshop will be answering all your lightning questions in regards to your turbines Now. Typically when we do this, it’s about $10,000 per seat, and this will be free as part of WMA 2026.
We’re gonna talk about some of the lightning physics, what’s actually happening in the field versus what the OEMs are saying and what the IEC specification indicates. And the big one is force majeure. A lot of operators are paying for damages that are well within the IEC specification, and we’ll explain.[00:10:00]
What that is all about and what you can do to save yourself literally millions of dollars. But that is only possible if you go to Woma 2020 six.com and register today because we’re running outta seats. Once they’re gone, they’re gone. But this is a great opportunity to get your lightning questions answered.
And Rosemary promised me that we’re gonna talk about Vestus turbines. Siemens turbines. GE Renova turbines. Nordex turbines. So if you have Nordex turbines, Sulan turbines, bring the turbine. Type, we’ll talk about it. We’ll get your questions answered, and the goal is that everybody at at Wilma 2026 is gonna go home and save themselves millions of dollars in 26 and millions of dollars in 27 and all the years after, because this Lightning workshop is going to take care of those really frustrating lightning questions that just don’t get answered.
We’re gonna do it right there. Sign up today.
Speaker 3: [00:11:00] You know what, I’m really looking forward to that session and especially ’cause I’ve got a couple of new staff or new-ish staff at, it’s a great way to get them up to speed on lightning. And I think that actually like the majority of people, even if you are struggling with lightning problems every day, I bet that there is a whole bunch that you could learn about the underlying physics of lightning.
And there’s not so many places to find that in the world. I have looked, um, for my staff training, where is the course that I can send them to, to understand all about lightning? I know when I started atm, I had a, an intro session, one-on-one with the, you know, chief Lightning guy there. That’s not so easy to come by, and this is the opportunity where you can get that and better because it’s information about every, every OEM and a bit of a better understanding about how it works so that you can, you know, one of the things that I find working with Lightning is a lot of force MA mature claims.
And then, um, the OEMs, they try and bamboozle you with this like scientific sounding talk. If you understand better, then you’ll be able to do better in those discussions. [00:12:00] So I would highly recommend attending if you can swing the Monday as well.
Speaker: If you wanna attend now and you’re coming to the events.
Reach out to, you can reach out to me directly because what we want to do now is collect, uh, as much information as possible about the specific turbine types of the, that the people in the room are gonna be responsible for. So we can tailor those messages, um, to help you out directly. So feel free to reach out to me, joel.saxo, SAXU m@wglightning.com and uh, we’ll be squared away and ready to roll on Monday.
I think that’s Monday the 16th.
Speaker 2: So while American offshore wind fights for survival in the courts, British offshore wind just had its biggest day ever. The United Kingdom awarded contracts for 8.4 gigawatts. That’s right. 8.4 gigawatts of new offshore wind capacity, the largest auction in European history.
Holy smokes guys. The price came in at about 91 pounds per megawatt hour, and that’s 2024 pounds. [00:13:00] Uh, and that’s roughly 40% cheaper than building a new. Gas plant Energy Secretary Ed Milliband called it a monumental step towards the country’s 2030 clean power goals and that it is, uh, critics say that prices are still higher than previous auctions, and one that the government faces challenges connecting all this new capacity to the grid, and they do, uh, transmission is a limiting factor here, but in terms of where the UK is headed.
Putting in gigawatts of offshore wind is going to disconnect them from a lot of need on the gas supply and other energy sources. It’s a massive auction round. This was way above what I remember being, uh. Talked about when we were in Scotland just a couple of weeks ago, Joel.
Speaker: Yeah, that’s what I was gonna say.
You know, when we were, when we were up with the, or E Catapult event, and we talked to a lot of the different organizations of their OWGP and um, you know, the course, the or e Catapult folks and, and, and a [00:14:00] few others, they were really excited about AR seven. They were like, oh, we’re, we’re so excited. It’s gonna come down, it’s gonna be great.
I didn’t expect these kind of numbers to come out of this thing. Right? ’cause we know that, um, they’ve got about, uh, the UK currently has about. 16 and a half or so gigawatts of offshore wind capacity, um, with, you know, they got a bunch under construction, it’s like 11 under construction, but their goal is to have 43 gigawatts by 2030.
So,
Speaker 2: man.
Speaker: Yeah. And, and when 2030, put this into Conte Con context now. This is one of our first podcasts of the new year. That’s only four years away. Right. It’s soon. And, and to, to be able to do that. So you’re saying they got 16, they go some round numbers. They got 16 now. Pro producing 11 in the pipe, 11 being constructed.
So get that to 27. That’s another 16 gigawatts of wind. They want, they that are not under construction today that they want to have completed in the next four years. That is a monumental effort now. We know that there’s some grid grid complications and connection [00:15:00] requirements and things that will slow that down, but just thinking about remove the grid idea, just thinking about the amount of effort to get those kind of large capital projects done in that short of timeline.
Kudos to the UK ’cause they’re unlocking a lot of, um, a lot of private investment, a lot of effort to get these things, but they’re literally doing the inverse of what we’re doing in the United States right now.
Speaker 2: There would be about a total of 550, 615 ish megawatt turbines in the water. That does seem doable though.
The big question is who’s gonna be providing those turbines? That’s a. Massive order. Whoever the salesperson is involved in that transaction is gonna be very happy. Well, the interesting thing here
Speaker: too is the global context of assets to be able to deliver this. We just got done talking about the troubles at these wind farms in the United States.
As soon as these. Wind farms are finished. There’s not more of them coming to construction phase shortly, right? So all of these assets, all these jack up vessels, these installation vessels, these specialized cable lay vessels, they [00:16:00]can, they can fuel up and freaking head right across, back across the Atlantic and start working on these things.
If the pre all of the engineering and, and the turbine deliveries are ready to roll the vessels, uh, ’cause that you, that, you know, two years ago that was a problem. We were all. Forecasting. Oh, we have this forecasted problem of a shortage of vessels and assets to be able to do installs. And now with the US kind of, basically, once we’re done with the wind farms, we’re working on offshore, now we’re shutting it down.
It frees those back up, right? So the vessels will be there, be ready to roll. You’ll have people coming off of construction projects that know what’s going on, right? That, that know how to, to work these things. So the, the people, the vessels that will be ready to roll it is just, can we get the cables, the mono piles, the turbines and the cells, the blades, all done in time, uh, to make this happen And, and.
I know I’m rambling now, but after leaving that or e Catapult event and talking to some of the people, um, that are supporting those [00:17:00] funds over there, uh, being injected from the, uh, the government, I think that they’ve got
Speaker 2: the, the money flowing over there to get it done too. The big winner in the auction round was RWE and they.
Almost seven gigawatts. So that was a larger share of the 8.4 gigawatts. RWE obviously has a relationship with Vestus. Is that where this is gonna go? They’re gonna be, uh, installing vestus turbines. And where were those tur turbines? As I was informed by Scottish gentlemen, I won’t name names. Uh, will those turbines be built in the uk?
Speaker 3: It’s a lot. It’s a, it’s one of the biggest challenges with, um, the supply chain for wind energy is that it just is so lumpy. So, you know, you get, um, uh. You get huge eight gigawatts all at once and then you have years of, you know, just not much. Not much, not much going on. I mean, for sure they’re not gonna be just building [00:18:00] eight gigawatts worth of, um, wind turbines in the UK in the next couple of years because they would also have to build the capacity to manufacture that and, and then would wanna be building cocks every couple of years for, you know, the next 10 or 20 years.
So, yeah, of course they’re gonna be manufacturing. At facilities around the world and, and transporting them. But, um, yeah, I just, I don’t know. It’s one of the things that I just. Constantly shake my head about is like, how come, especially when projects are government supported, when plans are government supported, why, why can’t we do a better job of smoothing things out so that you can have, you know, for example, local manufacturing because everyone knows that they’ve got a secure pipeline.
It’s just when the government’s involved, it should be possible.
Speaker 2: At least the UK has been putting forth some. Pretty big numbers to support a local supply chain. When we were over in Scotland, they announced 300 million pounds, and that was just one of several. That’s gonna happen over the next year. There will be a [00:19:00] near a billion pounds be put into the supply chain, which will make a dramatic difference.
But I think you’re right. Also, it’s, they’re gonna ramp up and then they, it’s gonna ramp down. They have to find a way to feed the global marketplace at some point, be because the technology and the people are there. It’s a question of. How do you sustain it for a 20, 30 year period? That’s a different question.
Speaker 3: I do agree that the UK is doing a better job than probably anybody else. Um, it it’s just that they, the way that they have chosen to organize these auctions and the government support and the planning just means that they have that, that this is the perfect conditions to, you know. Make a smooth rollout and you know, take care of all this.
And so I just a bit frustrated that they’re not doing more. But you are right that they’re doing the best probably
Speaker 4: once all of these are in service though, aren’t there quite a bit of aftermarket products that are available in the UK
Speaker: on the service then? I think there’s more.
Speaker 4: Which, I mean, that’s good. A good part of it, right?
Speaker: If we’re talking Vestas, so, so let’s just round this [00:20:00] up too. If we’re talking vest’s production for blades in Europe, you have two facilities in Denmark that build V 2 36 blades. You have one facility in Italy that builds V 2 36 blades, Taiwan, but they build them for the APAC market. Of course. Um, Poland had a, has one on hold right now, V 2 36 as well.
Well, they just bought that factory from LM up in Poland also. That’s, but I think that’s for onshore term, onshore blades. Oh, yes, sure. And then Scotland has, they have the proposed facility in, in Laith. That there, that’s kind of on hold as well. So if that one’s proposed, I’m sure, hey, if we get a big order, they’ll spin that up quick because they’ll get, I am, I would imagine someone o you know, one of the, one of the funds to spool up a little bit of money, boom, boom, boom.
’cause they’re turning into local jobs. Local supply
Speaker 2: chain does this then create the condition where a lot of wind turbines, like when we were in Scotland, a lot of those wind turbines are. Gonna reach 20 years old, maybe a little bit older here over the next five years where they will [00:21:00] need to be repowered upgraded, whatever’s gonna happen there.
If you had internal manufacturing. In country that would, you’d think lower the price to go do that. That will be a big effort just like it is in Spain right now.
Speaker: The trouble there though too, is if you’re using local content in, in the uk, the labor prices are so much
Speaker 2: higher. I’m gonna go back to Rosie’s point about sort of the way energy is sold worldwide.
UK has high energy prices, mostly because they are buying energy from other countries and it’s expensive to get it in country. So yes, they can have higher labor prices and still be lower cost compared to the alternatives. It, it’s not the same equation in the US versus uk. It’s, it’s totally different economics, but.
If they get enough power generation, which I think the UK will, they’re gonna offload that and they’re already doing it now. So you can send power to France, send power up [00:22:00] north. There’s ways to sell that extra power and help pay for the system you built. That would make a a lot of sense. It’s very similar to what the Saudis have done for.
Dang near 80 years, which is fill tankers full of oil and sell it. This is a little bit different that we’re just sending electrons through the water to adjacent European countries. It does seem like a plan. I hope they’re sending ’em through a cable in the water and not just into the water. Well, here’s the thing that was concerning early on.
They’re gonna turn it into hydrogen and put it on a ship and send it over to France. Like that didn’t make any sense at all. Uh. Cable’s on the way to do it. Right.
Speaker: And actually, Alan, you and I did have a conversation with someone not too long ago about that triage market and how the project where they put that, that that trans, that HVDC cable next to the tunnel it, and it made and it like paid for itself in a year or something.
Was that like, that they didn’t wanna really tell us like, yeah, it paid for itself in a year. Like it was a, the ROI was like on a, like a $500 million [00:23:00]project or something. That’s crazy. Um, but yeah, that’s the same. That’s, that is, I would say part of the big push in the uk there is, uh, then they can triage that power and send it, send it back across.
Um, like I think Nord Link is the, the cable between Peterhead and Norway, right? So you have, you have a triage market going across to the Scandinavian countries. You have the triage market going to mainland eu. Um, and in when they have big time wind, they’re gonna be able to do it. So when you have an RWE.
Looking at seven gigawatts of, uh, possibility that they just, uh, just procured. Game on. I love it. I think it’s gonna be cool. I’m, I’m happy to see it blow
Speaker 2: up. Canada is getting serious about offshore wind and international developers are paying attention. Q Energy, France and its South Korean partner. Hawa Ocean have submitted applications to develop wind projects off Nova Scotia’s Coast.
The province has big ambitions. Premier, Tim Houston wants to license enough. Offshore [00:24:00] wind to produce 40 gigawatts of power far more than Nova Scotia would ever need. Uh, the extra electricity could supply more than a quarter of Canada’s total demand. If all goes according to plan, the first turbines could be spinning by 2035.
Now, Joel. Yeah, some of this power will go to Canada, but there’s a huge market in the United States also for this power and the capacity factor up in Nova Scotia offshore is really good. Yeah. It’s uh, it
Speaker: is simply, it’s stellar, right? Uh, that whole No, Nova Scotia, new Brunswick, Newfoundland, that whole e even Maritimes of Canada.
The wind, the wind never stops blowing, right? Like I, I go up there every once in a while ’cause my wife is from up there and, uh, it’s miserable sometimes even in the middle of summer. Um, so the, the wind resource is fantastic. The, it, it is a boom or will be a boom for the Canadian market, right? There’re always [00:25:00] that maritime community, they’re always looking for, for, uh, new jobs.
New jobs, new jobs. And this is gonna bring them to them. Um, one thing I wanna flag here is when I know this, when this announcement came out. And I reached out to Tim Houston’s office to try to get him on the podcast, and I haven’t gotten a response yet. Nova Scotia. So if someone that’s listening can get ahold of Tim Houston, we’d love to talk to him about the plans for Nova Scotia.
Um, but, but we see that just like we see over overseas, the triage market of we’re making power, we can sell it. You know, we balance out the prices, we can sell it to other places. From our seats here we’ve been talking about. The electricity demand on the east coast of the United States for, for years and how it is just climbing, climbing, climbing, especially AI data centers.
Virginia is a hub of this, right? They need power and we’re shooting ourselves in the foot, foot for offshore wind, plus also canceling pipelines and like there’s no extra generation going on there except for some solar plants where you can squeeze ’em in down in the Carolinas and whatnot. [00:26:00] There is a massive play here for the Canadians to be able to HVD see some power down to us.
Speaker 2: The offshore conditions off the coast of Nova Scotia are pretty rough, and the capacity factor being so high makes me think of some of the Brazilian wind farms where the capacity factor is over 50%. It’s amazing down there, but one of the outcomes of that has been early turbine problems. And I’m wondering if the Nova Scotia market is going to demand a different kind of turbine that is specifically built for those conditions.
It’s cold, really cold. It’s really windy. There’s a lot of moisture in the air, right? So the salt is gonna be bad. Uh, and then the sea life too, right? There’s a lot of, uh, sea life off the coast of the Nova Scotia, which everybody’s gonna be concerned about. Obviously, as this gets rolling. How do we think about this?
And who’s gonna be the manufacturer of turbines for Canada? Is it gonna be Nordics? Well,
Speaker: let’s start from the ground up there. So from the or ground up, it’s, how about sea [00:27:00] floor up? Let’s start from there. There is a lot of really, really, if you’ve ever worked in the offshore world, the o offshore, maritime Canadian universities that focus on the, on offshore construction, they produce some of the best engineers for those markets, right?
So if you go down to Houston, Texas where there’s offshore oil and gas companies and engineering companies everywhere, you run into Canadians from the Maritimes all over the place ’cause they’re really good at what they do. Um, they are developing or they have developed offshore oil and gas platforms.
Off of the coast of Newfoundland and up, up in that area. And there’s some crazy stuff you have to compete with, right? So you have icebergs up there. There’s no icebergs in the North Atlantic that like, you know, horn seats, internet cruising through horn C3 with icebergs. So they’ve, they’ve engineered and created foundations and things that can deal with that, those situations up there.
But you also have to remember that you’re in the Canadian Shield, which is, um, the Canadian Shield is a geotechnical formation, right? So it’s very rocky. Um, and it’s not [00:28:00] like, uh, the other places where we’re putting fixed bottom wind in where you just pound the piles into the sand. That’s not how it’s going to go, uh, up in Canada there.
So there’s some different engineering that’s going to have to take place for the foundations, but like you said, Alan Turbine specific. It blows up there. Right. And we have seen onshore, even in the United States, when you get to areas that have high capacity burning out main bearings, burning out generators prematurely because the capacity factor is so high and those turbines are just churning.
Um, I, I don’t know if any of the offshore wind turbine manufacturers are adjusting any designs specifically for any markets. I, I just don’t know that. Um, but they may run into some. Some tough stuff up there, right? You might run into some, some overspeeding main bearings and some maintenance issues, specifically in the wintertime ’cause it is nasty up there.
Speaker 2: Well, if you have 40 gigawatts of capacity, you have several thousand turbines, you wanna make sure really [00:29:00] sure that the blade design is right, that the gearbox is right if you have a gearbox, and that everything is essentially over-designed, heated. You can have deicing systems on it, I would assume that would be something you would be thinking about.
You do the same thing for the monopoles. The whole assembly’s gotta be, have a, just a different thought process than a turbine. You would stick off the coast of Germany. Still rough conditions at times, but not like Nova Scotia.
Speaker: One, one other thing there to think about too that we haven’t dealt with, um.
In such extreme levels is the, the off the coast of No. Nova Scotia is the Bay of Fundee. If you know anything about the Bay of Fundee, it is the highest tide swings in the world. So the tide swings at certain times of the year, can be upwards of 10 meters in a 12 hour period in this area of, of the ocean.
And that comes with it. Different time, different types of, um, one of the difficult things for tide swings is it creates subsid currents. [00:30:00] Subsid currents are, are really, really, really bad, nasty. Against rocks and for any kind of cable lay activities and longevity of cable lay scour protection around turbines and stuff like that.
So that’s another thing that subsea that we really haven’t spoke about.
Speaker 3: You know, I knew when you say Bay Bay of funding, I’m like, I know that I have heard that place before and it’s when I was researching for. Tidal power videos for Tidal Stream. It’s like the best place to, to generate electricity from.
Yeah, from Tidal Stream. So I guess if you are gonna be whacking wind turbines in there anyway, maybe you can share some infrastructure and Yeah. Eca a little bit, a little bit more from your, your project.
Speaker 2: that wraps up another episode of the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. If today’s discussion sparked any questions or ideas. We’d love to hear from you. Just reach out to us on LinkedIn and don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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