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Offshore Wind Innovation Hub: A Launchpad for Cutting-Edge Technologies

Allen and Joel interview Tone Søndergaard, Director of the Offshore Wind Innovation Hub. The hub’s six-month accelerator program provides mentorship, industry connections, and resources to help startups scale. Tone shares insights from the first cohort’s outcomes and discusses the global application process for cohort two. If you’re interested in learning more, visit https://www.offshorewindnyc.com/.

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Allen Hall: Welcome to the special edition of the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. I’m your host, Alan Hall, along with my co host, Joel Saxam. Starting a new business in the wind industry is particularly difficult. Uh, there are multiple challenges beyond creating a product that the industry needs or wants. Fundraising, staffing, finding an office, technology development, marketing, international sales, the list goes on.

Well, there is help on the way. The Offshore Wind Innovation Hub, located in Brooklyn, New York, is a groundbreaking initiative launched by the NYU Tandon School of Engineering in collaboration with Ecuador, and supported by the New York City Economic Development Corporation. The hub’s mission is to accelerate the growth of the offshore wind industry by supporting startups developing cutting edge technologies, by providing access to mentorship, industry connections, and resources to scale up.

The hub aims to position New York City as a major player in the rapidly growing Offshore wind sector. Leading this ambitious initiative is Tone Sundegaard, uh, the director of the Offshore Wind Innovation Hub. With a background deeply rooted in the Danish wind industry and expensive experience fostering clean tech collaboration between Denmark and the United States, Tone brings a wealth of expertise and passion to her role in shaping the future of offshore wind innovation in New York City and beyond.

Tona, welcome to the program.

Tone Søndergaard: Thank you so much.

Allen Hall: So there is a lot to talk about today, uh, because Hey, we know a lot of small businesses in wind that are trying to get established. We are one of them Uh, and and uh your offshore wind innovation hub Popped up on our radar screen recently, like, Oh, Hey, there’s a lot going on there that we didn’t know about.

And let’s get some, get them on the podcast to talk about all the great activities that are happening there. But I want to first step back and talk about what are some of the problems with starting a small business in wind.

Tone Søndergaard: I think one of the reasons we really started this innovation hub and found that there was a need for an accelerator program and ecosystem development for the smaller businesses within offshore wind was partly twofold in a way.

The first reason really being that we found that smaller businesses, especially within offshore wind, were challenged by what we call information asymmetry, and it was really difficult for many of the smaller businesses who wanted to either move into offshore wind or pivot into offshore wind from other industries to figure out Precisely what is my value proposition?

Precisely when in the supply chain do I fit in? Um, and data in this industry tends to be fairly privileged and sort of like held by some of the really major corporations. Um, so that was really one of the problems that we wanted to try and solve with Innovation Hub was to try and give smaller players access to some of this information and so that they much more efficiently and effectively, um, could enter this industry.

Joel Saxum: Okay, so we’re talking Econor. Econor is Norwegian.

They’re a long ways away. If you’re a United States company, they’re a big, and like, you could look at Econor, it’s like go on LinkedIn. Oh, we have, I don’t know what the number is, but 20, 000 employees or whatever, like, where do I even start? Like, how do I find a stakeholder to even talk to let alone get, you know, to the point where we’re making decisions and making plans and stuff like that.

So it’s a black hole really in some of these large companies when you go into it.

No, completely agree. And I think you were sort of like echoing precisely some of the challenges we also saw with our first cohort, which just ended in December here in 23. Precisely that sort of like wayfinding within some of these like massive energy companies, right, which are setting up shop maybe for the first time in the U.

S. or maybe they have some sort of like oil and gas business already, but it’s completely new structures they’re creating here. Um, and that can be really difficult to wayfind, right? Like what department do I even fit into if I don’t really know what What department does what? You know? So even if we ask sort of like a startup or a relatively new business, like what department in one of the big companies would you like to contact with, they’re like, um, I, I don’t actually know which one does that.

You know?

Yeah. There’s, I mean, there’s, it’s sales 101. You can Google how do I do a sales plan and it will be like stakeholder map and find your personas and stuff. But you’re like. I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. That concept

Allen Hall: is great. But where do I start? Because I think in wind, uh, it’s a renewable energy.

There’s a lot of focus on it. There’s a lot of tech around it. And I don’t, a lot of smart people are thinking about that industry, getting into that and taking that idea and making it into a product. That’s one phase, right? And I think a lot of the engineers out there that I’ve seen in, in offshore wind and onshore wind have gotten to the, like, Hey, we can make the thing.

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. But, when they get to, now I need to sell it, I need to market it, I need to establish a company, that’s where they have the problem. And a lot of the small companies that Joel and I have been around the last several years that have had great tech, unbelievable tech, have failed because of all the other pieces.

And I, this is where the offshore wind hub comes in, right? So that, uh, can you explain like what things you’re offering to fill those voids that a typical engineer running a company. Misses.

Tone Søndergaard: Absolutely. And I think, you know, in, in startup world or in the accelerator world, we call this kind of like the valley of death or the mountain of opportunity is sometimes it’s also framed as, you know, so that’s a great one, but, um, but you’re precisely right.

What we see a lot of our founders or small businesses coming to us with this, a well functioning product, right? Like it’s a well functioning product. They kind of figured out how to sort of like do the basis of that, but what they are struggling with. And, and one of the things we also focus a lot on for the.

for the Innovation Hub program is to help them with creating that first collaboration with a big energy company, right? Figuring out how do we de risk that collaboration so that they get the information they need to truly figure out what is my value proposition? Because one of the things that we see them come to us with is in order to really scale their business.

What is my business model? How do I price my product? How big of a challenge am I actually solving? And am I sort of like approaching the market with the right type of doing that? So we see a lot of the, the sort of like entrepreneurs that we work with really sort of like need to sort of like scope that out to be able to have a scalable business that, you know, will, will make it great in this industry.

Joel Saxum: You’re helping that entrepreneur, that small company, that, that idea, or sometimes it’s not a small company, sometimes a big company, it’s just a division, something they started. Either way, you’re helping that entity by de risking, understanding, building business models, the international business things we talked about a little bit off air.

Um, but then you’re also say like this, you guys are in partnership with Econor here. However, you’re also building an ecosystem for offshore wind. So it’s not just Econor that you guys have access to, right? But, but you, you’re de risking the technology for them as well. Because when those big companies that have billion dollar assets offshore, And someone comes to them with this new tech, immediately their hair gets up on the back of their neck, like, you know, Should we take this risk on?

Should we trust these people? Is it, because, because, and here’s the, here’s the trouble with offshore. Okay, so again, I’ll, I’ll go back to case study type thing, or examples. Weatherguard Lightning Tech, putting strike tape on. You put strike tape on 10 turbines in Texas, and it costs you X. You go try to put strike tape as a test on 10 turbines offshore, And it costs you X times five or 10 just because of vessel time and downtime, all these different things.

So it’s really hard to test products offshore as well. And for the company that owns those assets or is paying for that time and that effort that they need a de risk for them too. And you can, you know, as a business person, you can understand that.

Tone Søndergaard: You’re so right. Like that what we are kind of experiencing actually is like working closely with an entity like Equinor.

It’s precisely like they get a framework by which they can collaborate with a small business for six months, which is part of our accelerator, if you accept it in, right? You get mentorship, but you also get that collaboration where you can kind of, where both sides can sort of like feel each other out a little bit, right?

And in a, in a setting sort of like test out or figure out what is, what is the road to testing this? Because I think you’re precisely right, what we hear from many of the developers or the big sort of like OEMs is it’s really risky right now, right? Right. All of them are feeling like they’re taking on a lot of risk in a, in a market that’s completely new and where the supply chain feels, you know, not fully established yet.

Um, so I think that’s really sort of like what we also try and tackle with this.

Joel Saxum: Pair up with who your end user will be right away at the early stages in your product so that you’re not building a. solution and looking for a problem. You’re actually found a problem and you have a solution and you’re working toward directly towards it.

Tone Søndergaard: Like an additional part of this and what you also hinting to, right. As we see quite a lot of like technical founders coming into our startup programs, people have amazing ideas, but maybe they need some help with the pitching, right? Like it, It’s a space where you need to be good at selling your product.

And that maybe isn’t necessarily what you learned during your PhD, where you develop something magnificent, right? Like maybe that was not top on the charity list, you know?

Joel Saxum: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, for sure. You did, you, you got a PhD, So you’re, you got, now you’ve got to figure out, Uh, the grassroots way, like by, by paying how to sell things, not to commercialize things, but you get in on board with state offshore wind accelerator program.

Now, all of a sudden you have this whole team around you get, we’re going to help you commercialize this thing. Here’s how we’re going to do it. Here’s the partnerships. It’s, it’s a fantastic initiative. I applaud you guys for doing this.

Allen Hall: So the first cohort has just passed through the program, uh, I think it’d be helpful for everybody listening to understand what the program looks like.

It’s a six month program, how to get selected, what happens once you’re accepted, and what is, and what is that first cohort experienced in their run in that timeframe?

Tone Søndergaard: So we’re actually searching for our cohort two right now. So like shout out to everyone out there who maybe had a great idea. Sitting there being, uh, an innovator or, uh, being at this stage where we’re looking to engage.

We often sort of like take in companies who are sort of in that early revenue phase or maybe more established in another industry and then pivoting into offshore wind. Um, and the program essentially is so that you apply, you have to do that by like end of March essentially. Then sort of like this fairly vigorous down selection process starts, we have, uh, I think 20 plus technical evaluators who looks at the different technologies, figuring out is this, you know, something that is actually solving a problem that the developers have, uh, both specifically for Equinor, but we also have the National Offshore Wind Research and Development Council, helping us sort of have that national outlook on things, um, and then halfway through the selection process, we invite the 12 finalists, To come to New York, pitch at a public pitch event, but also interview with us and all of the partners behind the program to really sort of like scope out.

How is your fit within this program? Are we the right ones to help you? Because I think it’s important to say that we are a non dilutive accelerator. We don’t take equity. Um, so we have, you know, one pure goal and that’s finding the startups who we can help the most, um, throughout the six months. which you’re hinting to, right, if selected to be part of the sex, which is, happens in June, then this six months intensive process, uh, with my fantastic team, um, and all of the partner organizations who also all sort of like contribute to the programming, um, includes, uh, three trips to New York, coming here for a week at a time, workshop more than, you 25 different like expert sessions, but also a lot of what we call peer to peer work.

Um, we really utilize that the different founders or executives entering the program have different types of learnings that they can share with one another and grow their understanding in that sense. Um, but then they’re also paired with an Equinor mentor who can really sort of like dive into the technical challenges they might be facing.

Um, and then of course we try and really help them build their business by just overloading with, with their contacts within, within the offshore wind industry, right? Um, all with the aim to answer the last part of your question, what are the outcomes? I think. More or less all of our companies from cohort one now have revenue streams in New York, so they actually managed to sort of like do that.

We are seeing a hopefully great fundraising news coming out from some of them very soon. Um, many of them looking to establish shop in New York, like actual manufacturing facilities coming to New York because of this program. Um. Yeah, that, which is a fantastic outcome, um, and yeah, their first hires, you know, that’s also what we do a lot, helping them find hires.

Some of, we utilize NYU’s intern programs to get them great, sort of like talented, but we also help them hire more sort of like a C level or mid level people, which is what many of them maybe need in New York. So tons of different types of outcomes in that sense, but all really exciting. And we’re so proud of our first cohort.

Allen Hall: Applicants to your program are not limited to New York or New York City. It’s a global open calling for tech companies to apply, right? I think your first cohort had a number of non U. S. companies apply. You want to describe who you’re looking for?

Tone Søndergaard: We are looking for the most promising, both hardware and software, from all over the globe.

In our first cohort, we had half European companies, half American companies joining our cohort. Hopefully this year we’ll have even more great startups also from either the South American continent or from Asia, where we’re seeing great applicants coming in from. You know, they’re really starting to catch on to offshore wind as well.

So that’s super exciting. And what we’re really looking for is precisely like technologies that can help American developers lower the cost of developing these projects. So one of the key things we’re looking for. Is a technology’s innate, like, ability to facilitate that kind of like either cost reduction or efficiency gains or whatever your sort of like technology works on.

Allen Hall: That applies to hardware companies and software companies, right? It’s both.

Joel Saxum: Absolutely. If you’re in wind, you know that a lot of technology that’s used in the States comes from Europe, right? Comes from Northern Europe, comes from the Danes, comes from people over there. So that’s a, that is a non trivial thing to navigate because people don’t, a lot of people don’t realize it.

It doesn’t matter where you are in the globe, that’s a tough way to do business if you don’t understand it. So getting these people in one room together to share experiences, to share business knowledge, engineering knowledge, whatever that may be, that’s a huge advantage of this program.

Tone Søndergaard: And I think you’re precisely right.

What we see that especially the different founders or executives can learn from one another. It’s actually that like business culture part of it. I think so. Like technology wise, many of them again have figured that out. And that’s maybe more similar. But how you sell a product is really different between even the same people.

Like maybe European headquartered developers, how they operate in Europe and how they operate in the States is completely different. Um, and many of them are kind of like struggling with that being like, if I’m European, cold calling might not be such as a like way of going about things, right? And like, how, how much humor should I use in my first couple of meetings?

You know, it’s like,

Joel Saxum: Sure, for sure.

Tone Søndergaard: Stuff like this and like, scoping out like, what is the, what is the culture I’m going for here? Like, how insistent can I be? How, one of the questions we really encounter often is like, when do I start talking about the price of my product? Like, when is that appropriate, right?

And that differs, um, between the U. S. and Europe in many ways. So we really try and focus on, on them learning some of that from one another, because that’s often more effective than, you know, sort of like a set of experts coming in and telling you how to run your business that rarely works as well, you know?

Joel Saxum: Experiential on the same plane, right? To be honest with you, the way you sell things, even within the United States, is different. You sell something different to someone from the northern Midwest, then you do Texas, then you do California, then you do Massachusetts. So even just here, you got to understand those, those kind of, um, ends and outs, I

Allen Hall: would say.

This is a great program. And I know that’s a little bit of a short timeframe to get into cohort two. How do people connect with the hub? How do they apply to the hub? And what does that process, that application process look like?

Tone Søndergaard: Everyone interested in reading our full call for innovators should go to offshorewindnyc.com

That’s kind of easy. Um, there we have sort of like laid out the full, full material. That’s also where the app, online application portal is. And it’s, uh, I would say it takes, depending on how many application one has behind them, like it maybe takes three, four or five hours to fill out the application.

So it’s a little bit of a time commitment, but we really try to make it, you know, as intuitive and as straightforward as possible. Um, So that’s kind of like the really easy way of doing it. If you have questions and we really encourage all our potential applicants to reach out to us first, we happy to help sort of like maybe frame the, the application you have in mind a little bit.

Talk through some of the points where you’re a little bit in doubt about should I be specific here or be more broad? How do I make the strongest case for precisely my solution? Then you can reach out to me or my team. And we take 30 minute calls with everyone who’s interested in applying. And that can also be facilitated through the website.

Allen Hall: And there’s no application fee. It’s totally free. It’s all online and you can apply from anywhere.

Tone Søndergaard: You can apply from anywhere. No application fee. Even if you join the cohort, there is, again, there’s no fee of joining. Everything is free for the, for the cohort selected and, um, and we provide travel grants.

So if you, if you come from far away, we’ll help you sort of like make it possible coming to New York.

Allen Hall: Right. That’s an important note because if you do come from Europe or South America or even Japan, even South Korea, big wind in places. Or Austin, Texas. Austin, Texas, which is a long ways away, right? It’s not free to travel and travel is expensive today.

So it really. It’s a smart move because you want to get the innovation out into service as quickly as you can. You need to accelerate it and you are. And that’s why this program is so innovative. I like that Equinor stepped into the space. I like, Tona, what you’re doing and the efforts you’re making. I, The first cohort is really interesting if you can go online, I encourage everybody to go online and look at the list of the first cohort and where they’re going, that’s a fascinating list.

Tona, I really appreciate you being on the program, we’re going to blast this out to everybody, so if you’re interested and you have a tech company and you’re trying to grow an offshore wind, you need to get a hold of Tona. And you need to get a hold of her fast and you need to be applying for this program, so Tona, thank you so much for being on the podcast, we love having you.

Tone Søndergaard: Thank you so much, it was a pleasure being with you today.

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How Sparacino Farms Saved Thousands with Cyanergy Solar? 

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At the heart of regional NSW, Sparacino Farm is more than just a place that grows avocado and citrus. It’s a family-run operation that was established in 1973 and is currently run by two brothers, Joe and Alf Sparacino.

The family has extensive knowledge about farming and practices ways that make farming more sustainable and productive with their hard work, resilience, and smart decisions.

So, when it came time to tackle rising energy costs, the Sparacinos wanted a solution that would reduce expenses without compromising their values.

With Cyanergy’s smart solution, Sparacino Farm took a strategic step toward energy independence. They planned to install solar panels, thus reducing their dependency on the grid.

For them, this wasn’t just about going solar. It was about making the farm more efficient, more sustainable, and more secure for the future.

With a 99.8 kW solar panel system tailored to their operations, the Sparacino family has cut costs, reduced emissions, and reinvested where it matters most, back into the land that sustains them.

So, if you are thinking of going solar for your business? You’re in the right place.

This blog dives into every detail about how Sparacino Farms Saved Thousands with Cyanergy Solar, how they made it happen, and how you can too.

The Energy Challenge: Rising Electricity Costs on the Farm

Energy expenses are becoming one of the most significant costs for businesses, commercial properties, and farming,
and in Australia, most of the residents strongly agree on that.

Agriculture is an energy-intensive industry. Over the years, as machinery has become more advanced and irrigation
systems run longer hours, the electricity
bill
has soared.

For the Sparacino family, the electricity cost had become a significant issue, too.

Like many others, they found themselves facing unsustainable energy costs that were cutting into profits and limiting
growth opportunities.

So, faced with rising power bills, the Sparacinos began looking for a long-term, cost-effective energy solution.

Why Solar? | Sparacino’s Motivation for Change!

For the Sparacinos, the decision to go solar wasn’t just about saving money; it was about securing the future of the
farm. Also, solar energy made perfect sense, especially in Australia, where abundant sunshine makes it a
reliable and renewable option.

Not only this! Investing in solar energy offered several key benefits to them, which include:

  • Predictable energy costs.

  • Increased energy independence.

  • A reduced environmental carbon
    footprint
    and lower emissions.

For instance, before going solar, the farm’s annual electricity bill hovered around AUD $48,000, which is a high cost
for a mid‑sized agricultural business.

However, after installing solar panels, the bill dropped to $12,000, bringing substantial savings for the Sparacinos.

About Sparacino Farms| Design & Implementation of a Dual System

When the owners of Sparacino farm contacted Cyanergy, our expert team conducted a thorough assessment of the farm’s
energy needs and financial goals.

We proposed a hybrid layout that consists of one large system dedicated to the commercial farm operations, and a
second system for the residence, expanded with battery storage.

Systems Specifications

So, now let’s have a look at the equipment list and the project snapshot of Sparacino Farm for a detailed concept:

For System 1: Commercial System

For System 2: Residential System Paired with Battery

  • 63 JA Solar 440W panel
  • 2 Sungrow 3 Phase 10KW inverter
  • 1 Sungrow 19.2KWh Battery

The Power of Smart Farming: Annual Savings Breakdown!

Farming smarter, not harder, and that’s exactly what the Sparacino farm owners did, and their bottom line proves it all.

After installing solar energy, their savings began to add up quickly. Moreover, besides reducing operational costs, they increased long-term sustainability, making their investment worthwhile.

Here’s a closer look at their annual savings, which gives a clear reflection of how impactful the switch to solar has been for the farm.

Financial Impact:

  • Before adding solar: AUD $48,000 per year in electricity bills
  • After installing solar: around AUD $12,000 per year
  • That’s a 75% reduction in energy bills.
  • Monthly savings average AUD $3,000
  • Projected payback period: 30 months or 2.5 years

After the payback period, every dollar saved is pure gain, drastically improving the farm’s economic resilience.

Other Benefits

  • The system generates 165.87 MWh per year in clean energy, significantly reducing reliance on grid-supplied power.
  • The residential battery adds flexibility, capturing excess solar power for nighttime use, increasing self-consumption, thus offering energy freedom.
  • The system contributes meaningfully to lowering the farm’s carbon footprint, aligning with Australia’s net-zero 2050 emission goal.

From an operations standpoint, the farm now has more predictable energy costs, less exposure to rate hikes, and insulation against volatility.

Project Challenges and Key Takeaways

Even though there were no major hurdles reported in the case materials, from analyzing their approach to solar
project experience, we shared a few insights that can be useful for you.

  1. Accurate energy calculation, modeling, and load profiling are critical
  2. If you are planning to go solar, make sure to perform a proper energy audit. Wondering why?

    Because, depending on your energy
    usage
    , if your system is oversized or undersized, you either waste capital or fall short of
    savings
    expectations.

  3. Proper battery sizing and integration
  4. Adding battery
    storage
    increases capital cost in any solar setup.

    Cyanergy’s choice of a 19.2 kWh battery shows a moderate approach that’s enough to capture excess solar in a
    short
    time.

  5. Regular monitoring and maintenance
  6. For long-term performance and to catch any issues early, real-time or periodic monitoring is essential.

    Cyanergy emphasizes real-time performance monitoring in its broader communications.

  7. Look for incentives or regulatory changes.
  8. Australian businesses can generate Small-scale Technology
    Certificates
    (STCs) or other incentive mechanisms to offset high energy costs.

    At Cyanergy, we help you to understand how these certificates and
    subsidy
    schemes factor into project viability.

  9. Scalability and future growth
  10. It’s wise to design systems with space or modularity in case demand grows or additional assets require extra
    power.

Partnering with Cyanergy: Choosing the Right Solar Experts

The Sparacino Farms case isn’t just a financial win; it’s a milestone for Australians.

It shows that even if you are living in a sector as grounded as agriculture, you can leap forward into innovation.

Their story illustrates a powerful truth that says when you pair vision with technology, backing it with a thoughtful plan, you can turn a solar dream into a profitable reality.

So what are you waiting for? 

Join us today and explore all our solar products to find your perfect deal.
Also, check our recent projects on commercial properties to have a clear idea about our services.

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German Bird Study Finds 99% Avoid Turbines, SunZia Progress

Allen, Joel, Rosemary, and Yolanda discuss a German study finding 99.8% of birds avoid wind turbines, challenging long-standing collision risk models. They also cover Pattern Energy’s SunZia project nearing completion as the Western Hemisphere’s largest renewable project, lightning monitoring strategies for large-scale wind farms, and offshore flange alignment technology.

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You are listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by build turbines.com. Learn, train, and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. Visit build turbines.com today. Now, here’s your host. Alan Hall, Joel Saxon, Phil Totaro, and Rosemary Barnes.

Allen Hall: Welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. I’m your host Alan Hall in the queen city of Charlotte, North Carolina, where a cold front is just blown through, but we’re not nearly as cold as Joel was up in Wisconsin, Joel, you had a bunch of snow, which is really the first big storm of the season.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, the crazy thing here was the Wind Energy Podcast. So since that storm I, we, we got up in northern Wisconsin, 18 inches of snow, and then we drove down on last Saturday after US Thanksgiving through Iowa, there’s another 18 inches of snow in Des Moines. I talked to a more than one operator that had icing and snow issues at their wind farms all through the northern Midwest of these states.

So from [00:01:00] North Dakota. All the way down to Nebraska, Northern Missouri, over into Indiana. There was a ton of turbines that were iced up and or snowed in from that storm,

Allen Hall: and Rosemary was in warm Australia with other icing knowledge or de-icing knowledge while the US has been suffering.

Rosemary Barnes: But you know, on the first day of summer here, a couple of days ago, it was minus one here overnight.

So. Um, yeah, it’s, uh, unseasonable and then tomorrow it’ll be 35.

Allen Hall: The smartest one of us all has been Yolanda, down in Austin, Texas, where it doesn’t get cold.

Yolanda Padron: Never. It’s so nice. It’s raining today and that’s about it. Traffic’s going crazy.

Joel Saxum: Rain is welcome for us, isn’t it though, Yolanda?

Yolanda Padron: It’s sweet. It doesn’t happen very often, but when it does.

Very rainy for like 24 hours.

Allen Hall: We’ve been saving a story for a couple of weeks until Rosemary is back and it has to do with birds and a year long study over [00:02:00] in Germany. And as we know, one of the most persistent arguments against wind energy has been the risk to birds and permitting and operation shutdowns have been the norm, uh, based on models and predicted collision risks.

Well. A new study comes, has just come out that says, what if the models are all wrong? And the new German study suggests that they may be wrong. The Federal Association of Offshore Wind Energy, known by its German acronym, BWO Commission Research to examine. Actual collision risk at a coastal wind farm in Northern Germany.

The study was conducted by Biocon Consult, a German research and consulting firm, and funded by eight major offshore wind operators, including Sted, Vattenfall, RWE, and E, roa, and. Rosemary using some of the newer technology. They were able to track bird movements with radar [00:03:00] and AI and stereo vision cameras to, to watch birds move through and around, uh, some of these wind farms.

And it analyzed more than 4 million bird movements and over 18 months, and they searched for collision victims and what they found was pretty striking more than 99.8% of both day migrating and night migrating birds. Avoided the turbines entirely. The study found no correlation between migration intensity and collision rates.

And BD and BWO says The combination of radar and AI based cameras represents a methodological breakthrough. Uh, that can keep turbines moving even when birds are in transit. This is pretty shocking news, honestly, Rosemary, I, I haven’t seen a lot of long-term studies about bird movements where they really had a lot of technology involved to, besides binoculars, to, to look at bird movement.

The [00:04:00] 99.8% of the migrating birds are going around The turbines. No, the turbines are there. That’s. Really new information.

Rosemary Barnes: I think. I mean, if you never heard anything about wind turbines and birds, I don’t think you’d be shocked like that. Birds mostly fly around obstacles. That’s probably an intuitive, intuitive answer.

Because we’ve had it shoved down our throat for decades now. Wind turbines are huge bird killers. It’s kind of like, it’s been repeated so often that it kind of like sinks in and becomes instinctive, even though, yeah, I do think that, um, it’s. Not that, that shocking that an animal with eyes avoids a big obstacle when it’s flying.

Um, but it is really good that somebody has actually done more than just trying to look for bird deaths. You know, they’ve actually gone out, seen what can we find, and then reported that they found mostly nothing. We already knew the real risks for birds, like hundreds or thousands, even millions of times [00:05:00] more, um, deadly to birds are things like.

Cats. Cars, buildings, even power lines kill more birds than, um, wind turbines do. In fact, like when you look at, um, the studies that look at wind, um, bird deaths from wind turbines, most of those are from people driving, like workers driving to site and hitting a bird with their cars. Um, you know, that’s attributed to wind energy.

Not a surprise maybe for people that have been following very closely, but good to see the report. Nonetheless.

Joel Saxum: I think it’s a win for like the global wind industry, to be honest with you, because like you said, there’s, there’s no, um, like real studies of this with, that’s backed up by metric data with, like I said, like the use stereo cameras.

Radar based AI detection and, and some of those things, like if you talk with some ornithologists for the big OEMs and stuff, they’ve been dabbling in those things. Like I dabbled in a project without a DTU, uh, a while back and it, but it wasn’t large scale done like this. A [00:06:00] particular win this study in the United States is there’s been this battle in the United States about what birds and what, you know, raptors or these things are controlled or should have, um, controls over them by the governments for wind installations.

The big one right now is US Fish and Wildlife Service, uh, controls raptors, right? So that’s your eagle’s, owls, hawks, those kind of things. So they’ll map out the nests and you can only go in certain areas, uh, or build in certain areas depending on when their mating seasons are. And they put mild buffers on some of them.

It’s pretty crazy. Um, but the one rule in the United States, it’s been kind of floated out there, like, we’re gonna throw this in your face, wind industry. Is the Federal Migratory Bird Act, which is also how they regulate all like the, the hunting seasons. So it’s not, it’s the reason that the migratory birds are controlled by the federal government as opposed to state governments is because they cross state lines.

And if we can [00:07:00] prove now via this study that wind farms are not affecting these migratory bird patterns or causing deaths, then it keeps the feds out of our, you know, out of the permitting process for. For birds,

Rosemary Barnes: but I’m not sure this is really gonna change that much in terms of the environmental approvals that you need to do because it’s a, you know, a general, a general thing with a general, um, statistical population doesn’t look at a specific wind farm with a specific bird and you’re still need to go.

You’re still going to have to need to look at that every time you’re planning an actual wind farm. That’s it’s fair.

Yolanda Padron: And it’s funny sometimes how people choose what they care or don’t care about. I know living in a high rise, birds will hit the window like a few a month. And obviously they will pass away from impact and the building’s not going anywhere.

Just like a turbine’s not going anywhere. And I’ve never had anybody complain to [00:08:00] me about living and condoning high rises because of how they kill the birds. And I’ve had people complain to me about wind turbines killing the birds. It’s like, well, they’re just there.

Joel Saxum: If we’re, if we’re talking about energy production, the, if everybody remembers the deep water horizon oil spill 2010 in the Gulf of Mexico.

That oil spill killed between 801.2 million birds. Just that one.

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Allen Hall: well in the high desert of Central New Mexico, near a lot of what were ghost towns that were abandoned during the Great Depression.

If there is a flurry of activity pattern, energy sunzi, a project is near completion after 20 years of planning and permitting. When. It’s supposed to be finished in 2026. It’ll be the largest renewable energy project in the Western hemisphere. More than 900 turbines spread across multiple counties. A 550 mile transmission line stretching to Arizona and then onward to California, and $11 billion bet that’s being made on American wind.

Now, Joel, it’s a kind of a combination of two OEMs there, Vestus and ge. The pace of building has been really rapid over the last six, eight months from what I can [00:10:00] tell.

Joel Saxum: Yeah. We have talked to multiple ISPs, EPC contractors. Um, of course we know some of the engineers involved in building a thing on the pattern side.

Right. But this sheer size of this thing, right, it’s, it is three and a half gigawatts, right? You’re talking 900 turbines and, and so big that one OEM really couldn’t, I mean, it’s a, it’s a risk hedge, right? But couldn’t fulfill the order. So you have massive ge tur set of turbines out there. Massive set of vestas turbines out there.

And I think one thing that’s not to be missed on this project as well is that transmission line, that high voltage transmission line that’s feeding this thing. Because that’s what we need, right? That was when we built, started building up big time in Texas, the cre, the crest lines that were built to bring all of that wind energy to the major cities in Texas.

That was a huge part of it. And we have seen over the last six months, we have seen loans canceled, uh, permits being pulled and like troubles being in hurdles, being thrown up in the face of a lot of these transmission lines that are planned. [00:11:00] These big ones in the states. And that’s what we need for energy security in the future, is these big transmission lines to go.

So we can get some of this generation to, uh, to the market, get electrons flowing into homes and into industry. But this thing here, man, um, I know we’ve been talking about Sunz, the Sunz project, uh, and all the people involved in it, in the wind industry for a, what, two, three years now? Oh, at least. Yeah.

It’s been in planning and development stage for much longer than that. But the. The, the big bet. I like it. Um, bringing a lot of, um, bringing a lot of economic opportunity to New Mexico, right? A place that, uh, if you’ve driven across New Mexico lately, it needs it in a dire way. Uh, and this is how wind energy can bring a lot of, uh, economic boom to places that, uh, hadn’t had it in the past.

Allen Hall: And this being the largest project to date, there’s a, I think a couple more than a pipeline that could be larger if they get moving on them. We see another project like this five years [00:12:00] from now, or we think we’re gonna scale down and stay in the gigawatt range just because of the scale and the things that Sunzi went through.

Joel Saxum: We have the choke chair, Sierra Madre project up in Wyoming that’s been chugging the Anschutz Corporation’s been pushing that thing for a long time. That’s, that’s along the same size of this unit. Um, and it’s the same thing. It’s, it’s kind of hinged on, I mean, there’s permitting issues, but it’s hinged on a transmission line being built.

I think that one’s like 700. 50 miles of transmission. That’s supposed to be, it’s like Wyoming all the way down to Las Vegas. That project is sitting out there. Um, it’s hard to build something of that size in, like say the wind corridor, the Texas, Oklahoma, uh, you know, all the way up to the Dakotas, just simply because of the massive amount of landowners and public agencies involved in those things.

It’s a bit easier when you get out West New Mexico. Um, I could see something like this happening possibly in Nevada. At some point in time to feed that California [00:13:00] side of things, right? But they’re doing massive solar farms out there. Same kind of concept. Um, I, I think that, um, I would love to see something like this happen, but to invest that kind of capital, you’ve got to have some kind of ITC credits going for you.

Um, otherwise, I mean, $11 billion is, that’s a lot of money

Allen Hall: since Zia will have PTC. Which is a huge driver about the economics for the entire project.

Joel Saxum: Yeah. But you’re also seeing at the same time, just because of the volatility of what’s happening in the states wind wise, uh, there was a big article out today of someone who got wind that EDF may be selling its entire

Allen Hall: US onshore renewable operation or US renewable operation.

That was Wood Mac that. Put that out. And I’m still not sure that’s a hundred percent reliable, but they have been 50% for sale for a while. Everybody, I think everybody knew that.

Joel Saxum: Yeah. I don’t know if it’s a hundred percent reliable as well. I would agree with you there. However, there’s, it’s the [00:14:00] same thought process of European company pulling outta the United States.

That’s where a lot of the renewable energy capital is, or it has been fed to a lot of that capital comes from Canada and other places too. Right. But that’s where it’s been fed through. Um, but you’re starting to see some, some. Uh, purchasing some acquisitions, a little bit of selling and buying here and there.

I don’t, I don’t think that there’s, uh, massive ones on the horizon. That’s just my opinion though.

Allen Hall: Well, won’t the massive ones be offshore if we ever get back to it?

Joel Saxum: Yeah, you would think so, right? But I, that’s gonna take a, uh, an administration change. I mean the, the, all that stuff you’d see out in California, like when we were originally seeing the leases come out and we were like, oh, great.

More offshore opportunity. Ah, but it’s California, so it’ll be kind of tough. It probably won’t be till 20 32, 20, something like that. I don’t think we’ll see possibly California offshore wind until 2040 if we’re lucky.

Allen Hall: Joel, what were the two wind turbines selected for Sunz? They were both new models, right?

One from Renova and then the other one from [00:15:00] Vestas,

Joel Saxum: so the Vestas was 242 V, 1 63, 4 0.5 megawatts machines, and the, and the GE Renova. Just so we get, make sure I get clarity on this. 674 of its three. They were 3.6, but they’re 3.61 50 fours.

Allen Hall: Okay. So both turbine types are relatively new. New to the manufacturer.

CZ has two new turbines styles on the site.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, we were told that when they were originally like getting delivered, that they didn’t have type certificates yet. That’s how new they were.

Allen Hall: So Yolanda. As Sania starts to turn on, what are things that they need to be aware of blade wise,

Yolanda Padron: besides the lightning and the dust in New Mexico?

It’s probably gonna tip them. I don’t know exactly what they’re counting with as far as leading edge protection goes.

Allen Hall: Pattern usually doesn’t, uh, have a full service agreement. Joel, do you remember if that was an FSA? I don’t think so.

Joel Saxum: I would say [00:16:00] because those are Vestas turbines on the one that, yes, Vestas really doesn’t sell a turbine without it.

Knowing internally how big patterns engineering group are, I don’t know if they can completely take on the operations of a thousand more turbine, 900 more turbines overnight. Right? So I think that there is gonna be some OE EMM involvement in these things, uh, simply to be at that scale as well. I don’t know of anywhere else with a 1 54 install a GE 1 54.

So the things that I wouldn’t looking out is the. It’s the brand new type stuff, right? Like do internal inspections when they’re on the ground. You don’t know what kind of condition these things are in, what, you know, what is the, you haven’t, nobody’s seen them. Like you’re the first ones to get to get your hands on these things.

Yolanda Padron: Yeah, I think they’re definitely gonna have to go with some sort of consulting or something externally as far as what exactly they’re dealing with. I know, Rosemary, you’ve touched on it a lot, right about. [00:17:00] How the changing the blade types and changing the turbines every x amount of years is really not conducive to, to being able to repeat the same results.

And if you’re having that for hundreds of turbines at a new site that you’ve already had so much time and money invested in creating, it’ll, it’s, it’s a big undertaking.

Rosemary Barnes: It’s really interesting because. When you have such a large wind farm be, I’m assuming one of the first wind farms may be the first to get this new turbine types, then if there’s a serial defect, it’s gonna be very obvious.

’cause with smaller wind farms, one of the problems is that, uh, the numbers are too small to definitively say whether something is, um, serial or just random bad luck. Um, but when you get. So how many wind turbines is it?

Joel Saxum: Almost a thousand total. It’s [00:18:00] 674 GE turbines and 242 Vesta turbines.

Rosemary Barnes: You can do statistics on that kind of a population and this area.

I mean, there’s lightning there, right? Like this is not an area where you’re not gonna see lightning. You know, in know the first couple of years, like there, there will be. Hundreds of turbines damaged by lightning in the, the first couple of years I would suggest, um, or, you know, maybe not. Maybe the LPS are so, so great that that doesn’t happen.

But, you know, the typical standard of LPS would mean that, you know, even if you only see, say we see 10 strikes per turbine to year and you get a 2% damage rate, that is, you know, lots of, lots of individual instances of blade damage, even if everything works as it should according to certification. And if it doesn’t, if you see a 10% damage rate or something from those strikes, then you are going to know that, you know, the, um, LPS is not performing the way that the standard says that it should.

It’s not like that’s a slam dunk for, um, [00:19:00] proving that the design was not sufficient or the certification wasn’t correct. It’s always really, really tricky. My recommendation would be to make sure that you are monitoring the lightning strikes, so you know exactly which turbine is struck and when, and then go inspect them and see the damage.

Ideally, you’re also gonna be measuring some of the characteristics of the lightning as well. But you do that from day one. Then if there is a problem, then you’re at least gonna have enough information within the, um, you know, the serial defect liability period to be able to do something about it.

Joel Saxum: Let me ask you a question on that, on just the, that lightning monitoring piece then.

So this is something that’s just, it’s of course we do this all the time, but this is boiling up in the thing. How do you, how do you monitor for lightning on 916 turbines? Probably spread, spread across. 200 square miles.

Rosemary Barnes: Well, there’s, there’s heaps of different ways that you can do it. Um, so I mean, you can do remote, remote lightning detection, which is [00:20:00] not good enough.

Then there are a range of different technologies that you can install in the, um, turbines. Um, the most simple and longest standing solution was a lightning cart, which is installed on the down conductor at the blade route. That will just tell you the amplitude of the biggest strike that that turbine has ever seen when it’s red.

I have literally never seen a case where the lightning card definitively or even provided useful evidence one way or another when there’s a, a dispute about lightning. So then you move on to solutions that, uh, um. Measuring they use, uh, Alan, you’re the electrical engineer, but they, they use the, the principle that when there’s a large current flowing, then it also induces a magnetic field.

And then you can use that to make a, a, a change and read characteristics about it. So you can tell, um, well first of all, that that turbine was definitely struck. So there are simple systems that can do that quite cheaply. The OGs ping [00:21:00] sensor, does that really cost effectively? Um, and then OG Ping. Phoenix Contact and Polytech all have a different product.

Um, all have their own products that can tell you the charge, the duration, the um, polarity or the, yeah, the, the, if it’s a positive or a negative strike, um, yeah, rise time, things like that. Um, about the strike, that’s probably, probably, you don’t. Need to go to that extent. Um, I would say just knowing definitively which turbine was struck and when is gonna give you what you need to be able to establish what kind of a problem or if you have a problem and what kind of a problem it is.

Joel Saxum: I think that like an important one there too is like, uh, so I know that Vest is in a lot of their FSA contracts will say if it’s struck by lightning, we have 48 or 72 hours to inspect it. Right. And when you’re talking something of this scale, 916 turbines out there, like if there’s a lightning storm, like [00:22:00]we’ve been watching, we watch a lot of lightning storms come through, uh, certain wind farms that we’re working with.

And you see 20, 30, 40 turbines get struck. Now if a storm comes through the middle of this wind farm, you’re gonna have 200 turbines get struck. How in the hell do you go out without ha Like you need to have something that can narrow you down to exactly the turbines that we’re struck. That being said that next morning or over the next two days, you need to deploy like 10 people in trucks to drive around and go look at these things.

That’s gonna be a massive problem. Pattern has about 3000 turbines, I think in their portfolio, and they, so they’re, they’re familiar with lightning issues and how things happen, but something at this scale when it’s just like so peaky, right? ’cause a storm isn’t through every night, so you don’t have that need to go and inspect things.

But when you do. That is gonna be a massive undertaking. ’cause you gotta get people out there to literally like, at a minimum, binocular these things to make sure there isn’t any damage on ’em. And it’s gonna be, there’s gonna be storms where hundreds of turbines get hit.

Rosemary Barnes: Yeah, well [00:23:00] those three companies, those three products that I mentioned are aiming to get around that.

I mean, it will depend how contracts are worded. I know in Australia it is not the norm to check for lightning ever. So if the contract says someone has to, you know, use human eyeballs to verify lightning damage or not, then. That’s, you know, that’s what has to happen. But all of these technologies do aim to offer a way that you wouldn’t have to inspect every single one.

So Polytech is using, um, different lightning characteristics and then they’ve got an algorithm which they say will learn, um, which types of strike cause damage that could. Potentially progress to catastrophic damage. Um, and then the other one that is interesting is the eLog Ping solution because they’ve also got the, um, damage monitoring.

That’s their original aim of their product, was that if there’s a damage on the blade tip, say it’s been punctured by lightning, it, it actually makes a noise. Like it makes a whistle and they listen out for that. So if you combine the [00:24:00]lightning detection and the, um, like blade. Tip structure monitoring from Ping, then you can get a good idea of which ones are damaged.

Like if it’s damaged badly enough to fail, it is almost certainly gonna be making a noise that the ping can, um, detect

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And there’s a, a really interesting article about [00:25:00] offshore, and there’s a number of articles about offshore this quarter. Well, two Dutch companies developed a solution to really one of the industry’s most persistent headaches. And when it’s flange alignment. So when you’re trying to connect the transition piece to the mono paddle out in the water, it’s not really easy to do.

Uh. So PES interviewed, uh, Ontech and Dutch heavy lift consultants to explain their flange alignment system known as FAS. And it started when a turbine installation needed a safer, faster way to try to align these two pieces. So if you can think about the amount of steel we’re talking about, these are really massive pieces you’re trying to line and put bolts in, not easy to do out in the ocean.

Uh, so what this new device can do is it can align the flanges in a couple of minutes. It can reshape deformed, flanges and Joel, as you know, everything offshore can get dinged warped. That’s pretty easy to do, so you don’t want that when you have a, a heavily loaded, bolted joint, like those flanges to be [00:26:00] perfectly, uh, smooth to one another and, and tight.

So these two companies, Amek and Dutch heavy Lifting consultants have come up with some pretty cool technology to speed up. Installations of wind turbines.

Joel Saxum: Yeah, I would say anybody who’s interested in wind, offshore wind, any of that sort, and you have a little bit of an engineering mind or an engineering, uh, quirk in your mind.

As, as I think we said earlier in the episode today, engineering nerds. Um, I would encourage you to go and look at some heavy lift operations offshore, whether it is offshore wind, offshore oil and gas, offshore construction of any time or any type even pipe lay operations and stuff. Just to take, just to take in the, the sheer scale.

At how, uh, at how these things are being done and how difficult that would be to manage. Think about the just tons and tons of steel and, uh, trying to put these pieces together and these different things. And then remember that these vessels are thousands of dollars, sometimes a minute for how specialized they are.

Right? So a lot of money gets put into [00:27:00] how the, like when we’re putting monopiles in that these transit transition pieces get put on. A lot of money has been spent on. The ver like technology to get, make sure they’re super, super tight tolerances on the verticality of those when they’re driving the actual piles in.

And then you’re doing that offshore in a nasty environment, sometimes from a jack up vessel, sometimes not from a jack vessel, sometimes from a mor or like a, you know, a pseudo mor vessel on, uh. Dynamic positioning systems, and then you’re swinging these big things with cranes and all this stuff, like, it’s just a crazy amount of engineering eng engineering and operational knowledge that goes into making this stuff happen.

And if you make one little mistake, all of a sudden that piece can be useless. Right? Like I’ve been a part of, of heavy offshore lifting for oil and gas where they’ve. It’s built a piece on shore, got it out to the vessel, went to go put it off sub sea in 2000 meters of water, lowered it all the way down there and it didn’t fit like you just burned [00:28:00] hundreds and hundreds and thousands of millions of dollars in time.

So this kind of technology that Anima Tech is putting out in Dutch Heavy Lift consultants. This is the key to making sure that these offshore operations go well. So kudos to these guys for solve for seeing a problem and solving a problem with a real solution. Uh, instead of just kind of like dreaming things up, making something happen here.

I’d like to see it.

Allen Hall: Check out that article and many more in this quarter’s. PES Wind Magazine downloaded free copy@pswind.com. Well, Yolanda, as we know, everybody’s out with Sky Specs, uh, doing blade inspections, and so many turbines have issues this year. A lot of hail damage, a lot of lightning damage and some serial defects from what I can tell.

Uh, we’re, we’re getting to that crazy season where we’re trying to get ready for next year and prioritize. This is the time to call C-I-C-N-D-T and actually take a deep hard look at some of this damage, particularly at the blade root area. We’ve seen a lot more of that where, [00:29:00] uh, there’s been failures of some blades at the root where the bolt connection is.

So you’re gonna have to get some NDT done. Boy, oh boy, you better get C-I-C-N-D-T booked up or get them on the phone because they’re getting really busy.

Yolanda Padron: Yeah, you definitely need to schedule something. Make sure that you know at least where you stand, right? Be because imagine going into try to fix something and just have a hammer and then close your eyes and then see what you can fix.

That way, like sometimes it feels like when you’re in operations, if you don’t have the proper. The proper inspections done, which sometimes there’s, there’s not enough budget for, or appetite or knowledge, um, in some of these projects to have early on. You come in and just, you, you see the end result of failure modes and you might see something that’s really, really expensive to fix now.

Or you might think of, oh, this problem happened at X, Y, Z. [00:30:00] Site, so it’ll probably happen here. That’s not necessarily the case. So getting someone like NDT to be able to come in and actually tell you this is what’s going on in your site, and these are the potential failure modes that you’re going to see based on what you’re getting and this is what will probably happen, or this is what is happening over time in your site, is a lot more indicative to be able to solve those problems faster and way.

More way, in a way less expensive manner than if you were to go in and just try to fix everything reactively. You know, if you have half a bond line missing. Then later you, your blade breaks. It’s like, well, I mean, you, you could, you could have seen it, you could have prevented it. You could have saved that blade and saved yourself millions and millions of dollars and, and so much more money in downtime.

Joel Saxum: Yeah. The first time I ran into Jeremy Hess and the C-A-C-N-D team was actually on an insurance project where it was Yolanda, like you said, like [00:31:00] they let it go. The, the operator and the OEM let it go way too long, and all of a sudden they had a, like wind farm wide shutdown costing them millions in production.

Uh, to find these, these issues that, uh, could have been found in a different manner when you talk to the team over there. Um, why we like to recommend them from the podcast is Jeremy has an answer for everything. He’s been around the world. He’s worked in multiple industries, aerospace, race, cars, sailboats, you name it.

Um, he’s been a client to almost everybody, you know, in the wind industry, all the OEMs, right? So he knows the, the issues. He has the right tool sets. To dive into them. You, you may not know, not, you don’t need to be an NDT expert to be able to have a conversation because he will coach you through, okay, here you have this problem.

Alright, this is how we would look at it. This is how we would solve it. Here’s how you would monitor for it, and then this is how you would, you know, possibly fix it. Or this is what the, the solution looks like. Um, because I think that’s one of the [00:32:00] hurdles to the industry with NDT projects is people just don’t.

Know what’s available, what’s out there, what they can see, what they, you know, the issues that they might be able to uncover, like you said, Yolanda. So, um, we encourage, um, anybody that says, Hey, do you know anybody in NDT? Yeah, it’s Jeremy Hanks and the C-I-C-N-D-T team. Call ’em up. They’ve got the solutions, they’ll help you out.

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