Two Crises at Once
In the summer of 2022, while Congress negotiated the Inflation Reduction Act, people in several entire neighborhoods in Athens, Georgia received notice that their monthly rent was increasing several hundred dollars, their Section 8 vouchers would no longer be honored, and they had one month to decide whether to stay or go. Many tenants in these mostly Black neighborhoods had lived for years in their homes, some for decades. Long enough to fix up the kitchen, see the neighbors’ children grow up, and build community. And, long enough to see apartments fall into disrepair and the septic system become overwhelmed. Housing investors from out of state bought several whole neighborhoods, raised rents, rejected vouchers, and displaced over a hundred households. Some of the tenants organized, attempting to pressure the developers or seek help from elected officials. The community’s pleas to the property developers were largely ignored, and the local government had limited options for an emergency response. A few people were able to pay the higher rent. Most people just had to try to find another place to live in a town where rents are rising due to many pressures and the supply of affordable housing does not meet the needs. Many people had to move out of the county or become homeless.
The Summer of 2022 was also the hottest summer on record, until the record was broken the following year. A few months later, in December, the South experienced an extreme and unusual winter storm with record low temperatures across the country, including in Athens. It is hard to know where the displaced residents went or how many people were still unsheltered by then. By January, 2023, the city’s homeless population had increased by 20% over the previous year’s count, following an upward trend that began during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Athens is not unique. All over the south and across the country, communities are grappling with a lack of affordable housing to meet the needs of the people who work and live in cities, small towns, and even rural communities.
According to a recent report from the National Low Income Housing Institution, no state in the United States has an adequate supply of affordable housing. And all over the south and across the country, climate disasters are increasing. These two major problems are linked. Their solutions are too.
Affordable Housing and Climate Change
Lack of affordable housing makes people and communities more vulnerable to the effects of climate change and climate disasters. As weather becomes more extreme in a changing climate, the unaffordability or inability to properly heat and cool inefficient homes can contribute to weather-related health problems; and extreme heat poses even greater threats to unhoused people, who are often displaced by unaffordable housing prices. People with few resources may be forced to live in places where they are more exposed to climate risks, such as flooding or urban heat islands, in order to be able to afford housing. This displacement can also contribute to urban sprawl, which can lead people to travel further by car and contribute to rising emissions. Meanwhile high utility costs, which disproportionately burden low-income residents, are often indicative of inefficient housing that lacks enough insulation and leaks air during cold and hot weather. Inefficient housing drives up residents’ bills while wasting energy and unnecessarily burning polluting fuels.
Improving housing can shore up our communities and protect vulnerable populations while lowering climate emissions. Layering climate-smart practices with efforts to preserve affordable housing can stabilize communities and make them more resilient to the threats of climate disasters while also driving down harmful pollution that causes climate change.
Building new housing with climate in mind can provide safe, healthy, and affordable housing for the workforce necessary to build the new electric vehicles, solar panels, batteries, and associated goods that will allow us to accomplish the energy transition.

Inefficient housing makes it harder for residents to stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
At the same time while the Athens residents were receiving their rent notices, during that hottest-summer-ever-until-the-next-summer, Congress passed the IRA on party line votes, directing historic funding to low-income communities like the ones affected by the housing crisis in Athens. Several programs in the IRA are aimed at building community resilience, improving existing affordable housing with climate-smart retrofits, and encouraging energy efficiency in new construction. Local governments, affordable housing owners, and nonprofit organizations can take advantage of historic funding targeted to disadvantaged communities through the Justice40 initiative.
These programs will not be enough alone to solve the climate crisis or the affordable housing crisis, but they can begin to shift the trends. Below are some of the opportunities available now. If you know of a property owner, local government, or community based organization who might be eligible for any of these programs, please send this blog post to them and encourage them to look into it!
Funding and Assistance Available Now
Below are several IRA programs that are available now. Some programs are for communities meeting specific criteria, and some are more broadly available.
These programs are subject to the Biden Administration’s Justice40 Initiative, an executive order that sets the goal of delivering at least 40% of the benefits of funding for climate and clean energy to communities defined as “disadvantaged” by the Environmental Protection Agency’s Climate and Economic Justice Screening Tool.
HUD Thriving Communities Technical Assistance
What does it do?
The HUD Thriving Communities Technical Assistance program (TCTA) will support coordination and integration of transportation and housing in infrastructure planning and implementation. The TCTA is part of an interagency initiative among the Department of Transportation, HUD, Energy, Commerce, and Agriculture, as well as the General Services Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency.
Who is it for?
TCTA is for local governments that have received federal funding for transportation projects and want to explore options for addressing local housing needs while completing infrastructure projects. For example, a community that has a project to construct multimodal improvements and connect a disadvantaged community could include TCTA to preserve affordable housing in the community.
When is it due?
Applications are accepted on a rolling basis.
Analysis:
The TCTA program can help local governments make the most of opportunities to address multiple community needs and get guidance on how to meet community priorities that cross federal agency boundaries. Often, infrastructure projects have consequences for affordable housing in communities. Receiving technical assistance across agencies could help mitigate the potential negative impacts and ensure that communities see better outcomes from current transportation projects.
HUD Green and Resilient Retrofits Program
What does it do?
The Green and Resilient Retrofits Program (GRRP) provides three different grants to help property owners add energy efficiency and resilience measures to existing affordable multi-family housing. The three programs are called Elements, Leading Edge, and Comprehensive. Which cohort fits a project best depends on where the project is in relation to the recapitalization process and how ambitious the property owner wants to be.
The Elements program provides up to $750,000 per property for gap funding for energy efficiency, renewable energy, carbon emissions reduction, and / or climate resilience measures. Gap funding allows the owner to finance the additional cost of the measures. For example, if a property owner is planning to replace windows in housing units, this grant could provide the additional funding needed to purchase high-efficiency windows instead of lower efficiency windows. To be eligible for this grant, properties must be in the process of recapitalization (a process whereby the owner uses third-party financing to make improvements on the property).
The Leading Edge program provides up to $10 million per property for projects where the owner is interested in pursuing an advanced green certification (examples of green building certifications at this link). Measures could include: energy efficiency, renewable energy, materials with lower embodied carbon, and other resiliency measures.
The Comprehensive program provides up to $20 million per property to properties with extensive needs for energy efficiency and climate resilience. Under this program, HUD provides owners with substantial assistance through recapitalization and the green building process.
Who is it for?
This program has grants for owners of existing HUD-subsidized multifamily housing that are in need of eligible updates. Most eligible properties fall under Section 8, including project-based rental assistance housing with housing assistance payment contracts (PBRA with HAP), Section 202 housing (for the elderly), Section 811 housing (for people with disabilities), and Section 236 (housing preservation). The GRRP is not for non-Section 8 public housing (for example, housing projects owned by public housing authorities), properties that accept housing vouchers but do not have HUD subsidies, or homes owned by low-income homeowners. You can use this map to identify HUD assisted multifamily housing projects in your community, but not all of the identified properties fall under Section 8.
When are they due?
Elements Deadline: March 28, 2024 (Elements NOFO)
Leading Edge: April 30, 2024 (Leading Edge NOFO)
Comprehensive: May 30, 2024 (Comprehensive NOFO)
Analysis:
The HUD GRRP grants could help preserve and maintain existing affordable housing units, and improve the health and wellbeing of residents. These grants are limited to certain properties in specific conditions, so they may not be widely useful across communities, but will make a big impact where eligible properties take advantage of the grants.
Environmental Justice Community Change Grants
What do they do?
Safe and affordable housing is a crucial condition for delivering environmental justice, particularly to communities that have faced disproportionate harm from housing policies that have segregated people by race and restricted access to housing and homeownership for Black and brown people in the United States. The EPA’s new Environmental Justice Community Change Grants program is one of many efforts by the Biden administration to deliver investments and opportunities to disadvantaged communities and begin to redress the harms of past policies. While these grants are not targeted specifically at housing, the goal of these place-based grants to “reduce pollution, increase community climate resilience, and build community capacity to address environment and climate justice challenges” could align well with community goals to improve affordable housing in communities through clean energy, energy efficiency, and other climate resilience measures. Read our Environmental Justice Community Change Grants blog to find out more about these grants.
Who are they for?
Community-based organizations (CBOs) that are governmentally recognized as nonprofits can apply for the Environmental Justice Community Change Grants in partnership with at least one other CBO, or in partnership with tribal governments, institutes of higher education, or local governments.
When are they due?
Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis until November 2024.
Analysis:
The EPA’s Community Change Grants represent huge opportunities for communities to address complex environmental justice problems through community-driven solutions. Safe, affordable housing is just one aspect of environmental justice that could be realized for communities through this grant program. These grants could make a big impact on communities that have often been left out of the benefits of federal investments.
Climate Pollution Reduction Grants
What do they do?
Agencies in most states and the largest metropolitan centers in the Southeast are currently engaged in developing priority action plans to reduce climate pollution through the Climate Pollution Reduction Grants program (CPRG). Plans will be submitted to EPA by March 1, 2024. Once plans are submitted, local governments will have until April 1, 2024 to apply for short-term, “shovel-ready” implementation grants (due May 1 for tribes).
State or local governments for whom affordable housing is a high priority could apply for CPRG implementation grants that provide for energy efficiency, renewable energy, electric vehicle charging, and other climate pollution reducing actions in affordable housing. See SACE’s letter to Tennessee’s Department of Environment and Conservation for example for how CPRG can be used for investing in multifamily affordable housing. For these projects to be included, planning agencies must include them as priorities in their planning grants, so it is important for communities to notify planning agencies that this is a priority for their community. For more information on how to provide feedback to CPRG planning agencies, check out our blog at this link.
Who are they for?
Local or tribal governments, states, and state agencies must lead in implementation grant applications. Local governments are encouraged to form coalitions with other local governments, and can also include community-based organizations, institutions, or private companies as coalition partners.
When are they due?
State, local, and tribal governments must apply for CPRG implementation grants by April 1, 2024.
Analysis:
Residential and commercial buildings are a key sector for climate emissions. While the CPRG program allows for broad measures, communities that are focused on rehabilitating housing could benefit from applying CPRG funds to energy efficiency and clean energy measures for affordable housing.
Tax Credits
What do they do?
The IRA included many tax credits for homeowners, developers, and builders to make home improvements such as energy efficiency, solar, batteries, and electric vehicle chargers.. Some base tax credits can be increased if developers deliver the benefits of clean energy and energy efficiency to low-income residents. The tax credits also encourage local workforce development by providing credit adders if developers pay prevailing wages, establish apprenticeship programs, and locate projects in low-income communities.
The New Energy Efficient Homes tax credit (Section 45 L) provides up to $2,500 per single family home (site built or manufactured), and up to $500 per multifamily unit for builders of new housing that meets ENERGY STAR specifications. This tax credit does not require the housing to meet affordability standards, but the builders could access additional credits if they pay prevailing wages. This tax credit is stackable with Low Income Housing Tax Credits. Only builders can access this tax credit–it is not available to local governments through direct pay.
The Investment Tax Credit for Energy Property (ITC) has been newly increased and extended under the IRA. The tax credit could go to a building owner or other entity that installs solar or battery energy storage systems on a property. The ITC includes additional credits for locating the project on low income-housing, benefitting low-income residents, and meeting prevailing wage and apprenticeship requirements. If all conditions are met, the developer can get up to 70% credit on the investment.
The Alternative Fuel Infrastructure Tax Credit (AFITC) provides up to 30% tax credit for electric vehicle chargers that are installed in rural or lower-income areas. To receive the full tax credit, developers must meet prevailing wage and apprenticeship requirements.
Who are they for?
The New Energy Efficient Homes tax credit (Section 45 L) is for builders of new single family or multifamily housing. This tax credit is stackable with Low Income Housing Tax Credits. Only builders can access this tax credit–it is not available to local governments through direct pay.
The Investment Tax Credit for Energy Property (ITC) (Section 48) is for property owners or other entities that install solar or batteries on a property. The ITC is eligible for direct pay, so local governments and nonprofits that do not have a tax liability can receive a payment in lieu of the tax credit. There is also a residential version of this tax credit for residents’ homes.
The Alternative Fuel Infrastructure Tax Credit (AFITC) (Section 30C), also known as the alternative fuel vehicle refueling property credit, is for property owners or other entities that install electric vehicle chargers or other alternative fuel equipment. The ITC is eligible for direct pay, so local governments and nonprofits that do not have a tax liability can receive a payment in lieu of the tax credit. There is also a residential version of this tax credit for owner-occupied homes.
When are they due?
The IRA tax credits are extended at current levels through 2032. Developers and builders can apply for the credits for the year when the project was completed.
Analysis:
The IRA tax credits provide opportunities for new and existing affordable housing. Building owners and developers who apply these credits can help residents lower their bills and reduce pollution, while increasing property value and reducing tenant turnover rate. Local governments can work to make sure that developers in their communities are aware of the tax credits, and may have opportunities to encourage developers and building owners to take advantage of tax credits to improve affordable housing in their communities.
Home Energy Rebates
What do they do?
The Department of Energy Home Energy Rebate Program provides rebates for home upgrades that reduce energy use. The rebates can be used for whole home upgrades, including insulation and weatherization. Rebates can also be used to offset the cost of new energy efficient appliances, such as electric stoves, heat pump HVAC equipment, and electric heat pump dryers, as well as electrical wiring and panel upgrades. Some of the rebate programs are designed for low-income households, with upfront rebates up to 100% allowed under the legislation for people earning below 80% of the area median income.
Who are they for?
The DOE Home Energy Rebates programs will be administered by state energy offices, which may develop their own eligibility criteria within the elements of the legal framework of the IRA. Homeowners and renters may be eligible for the funds, and building owners or other entities performing the work can access the funds on behalf of residents. Many of the rebate programs will be designed to be used by low-income households.
When are they due?
Most states are currently developing their rebate plans, and most programs are expected to be open by fall 2024. The rebate program is enabled to run through September 30, 2031.
Analysis:
The Home Energy Rebate programs will make available hundreds of millions of dollars to states in the Southeast to upgrade low income homes. Unlike tax credits, the rebate programs have a limited pool of funding. It could make sense for states to target funds to benefit the most vulnerable populations who may not otherwise be able to access funding for home energy upgrades.
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Allen, Joel and Phil discuss Germany’s failed offshore wind auction, India’s new regulations for domestic wind turbine components, and the need for renewable energy in the US to meet AI data center demands. They also highlight Ohio’s efforts to plug abandoned oil and gas wells and feature Quebec’s Rivière-du-Moulin as the Wind Farm of the Week.
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Allen Hall: Well, welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast.
I’m Allen Hall from the Queen City, Charlotte, North Carolina. Joel Saxum is down in Texas, and Phil Totaro of IntelStor is in Cali. Phil, you had a tsunami alert just recently. Did you see any waves in your neighborhood?
Phil Totaro: No ’cause it didn’t actually amount to anything. And that’s good, right?
Phil Totaro: It it, have you had tsunami warnings like that in the past?
Y yes. And actually more serious ones from earthquakes that are smaller than the 8.8 that was in Russia that caused this one. [00:01:00] Um, but we’ve had earthquakes off the coast of. California where, you know, they’re like four point something or five something, and that actually triggers a tsunami warning that’s potentially more serious because of the close proximity.
Uh, so we actually developed, uh, in California an early detection and warning system that is triggered, um, you know, mobile phone, uh, alerts and updates based on the, the detection of the P waves from an earthquake.
Allen Hall: What’s a P wave?
Joel Saxum: P Wave is down, ShearWave is left and right. So sheer wave would be moving this way.
P wave would be moving up and down.
Phil Totaro: The P waves, um, are the first indication on, you know, like for the US geological survey, they’ve got those things that, you know, monitor the, the, um, vibration of the earth or whatever it is that they’re monitoring. Um, a P wave will be the first thing triggered when there’s an actual earthquake.
[00:02:00] That’s the thing that happens fast, like super fast, and they can detect it. Anyway, so we’ve de we’ve developed an early warning system when, when we have issues and inclusive of, uh, you know, tsunami warnings. But I’m, I’m kind of, you know, 300 feet up, so I have less to worry about.
Allen Hall: It’s a good place to be.
Well, there’s some offshore warnings off the coast of Germany because, uh, they held their latest offshore wind auction. And it was for about two and a half gigawatts of capacity in about 180 square kilometers of water. And they didn’t have any bidders at all. Zero bidders and the industry from wind Europe to the, uh, German Offshore Wind Association or, or saying like, yeah, no one’s gonna bid on these things because there’s too much risk and there’s negative bidding, quote unquote negative bidding, which means that you have to.
Pay money for the rights [00:03:00] to build out the wind farm and everybody in at least Germany. And when Europe is saying that CFD contract for difference is, is the way to go. And until Germany switches over to a CFD model, you’re gonna continue to have no bidders. Now Phil, this is a big problem because Germany is planning to develop a, a.
Significant amount of offshore wind gigawatts worth many gigawatts worth by 2030. Is there gonna be a change into the German auction system? Will they move to A
Phil Totaro: CFD? We certainly hope so, because what they’ve been doing up to this point with, you know, trying to attract like zero subsidy bids is clearly not working.
Germany’s economy minister, uh, came out after the, the auction result and said, um, well, we’ll have to look at this and why that happened. Um, you know, were the designed areas actually appropriate and did we. Consider the potential risks for [00:04:00] developers? Were they underestimated? Um, well, yes, they were, uh, first of all, and there was nothing wrong with the design areas of the, you know, the 10.1 and 10.2 that they were trying to auction off.
It’s the fact that. You know, in a high interest rate environment, nobody’s gonna wanna make, uh, a zero subsidy bid on something where they’re not gonna necessarily be guaranteed the, the PPA that they need. Um, and when you’re not willing to, to guarantee them the PPA in advance of the auction, that’s, that’s one part of it.
Um, the other part is that, you know, with uncertainty and, and risk associated with, um, you know. Access to supply chain components and things like that. Um, you know, you’ve got countries like Germany and the EU in general saying that they wanna wean themselves off of China and, and Chinese parts. Well, good luck with that, first of all.
Second, second. If you’re gonna domesticate everything that’s [00:05:00]necessarily gonna raise the cost. So you’ve gotta be in a position to, you know, accept, uh, a higher price and, and give, you know, if you’re the government, you have to be able to give some kind of certainty.
Joel Saxum: I’d love for someone from, from that, uh, how do I say this?
Like, not organization, but from that area, from who’s been involved in this to reach out to the podcast. ’cause uh, what I’d like to be a fly on the wall. ’cause this is what I don’t understand, Germany. Big wind market onshore, big wind market, offshore, large player, and wind in general, right? Big companies over there.
We got RWE over there. That has done a lot of offshore things like where was the consultation between the government and trade groups, organizations, because you know, like there should be a feedback mechanism in the early stages of planning this that says, Hey, potential suitors, what do you think about this process?
Will it work? And I have to imagine that they all emailed back and said. This isn’t gonna work for me. Um, I don’t know though. Right? So I’d love to hear from someone involved in that process to be able to kind of share with [00:06:00] us this is how it went, because we’ve watched it happen now time and time again.
There was another one of these not too long ago, Denmark had the one that was, had basically zero subscribers, right? So, hey, governments, uh, you have a great trade organization over there. Wind Europe, you have, um, a lot of players local to you. It’s not like you’re trying to figure this out, uh, blindly. Why not
Allen Hall: collaborate?
Oh yeah, that’s totally true. We had just had MAD and Andres Nash on, uh, who were talking about the Nord project up in Norway, and that’s going through a bidding process sort of starting now. It’s in September. It really gets serious. But even there, there’s a significant number of changes that are happening in companies that are dropping out because they’re raising the stakes and trying to get companies that have a lot of offshore wind experience and not.
Bring somebody new into the game where they were gonna make mistakes. They, they figure if you have developed a, was it 200 megawatts or 500 megawatts [00:07:00] Joel Offshore already? It was some significant number. I think it was 500.
Phil Totaro: I mean, if, if there was any way that they could try and like, make this about like, we only wanna work with eor.
Like that’s basically what they’re trying to do. I mean, like, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, sure. But like if Simply Blue Group comes in there and says that they wanna be able to develop if Stat Craft who had previously been involved in that, was in there and then pulled out because they weren’t getting the, the, you know, guarantees from the Norwegian government either.
I mean, this is, this is kind of the, the systematic. Uh, issue within Europe at the moment anyway, because they’re the ones talking about, well, we wanna wean ourselves off of Russian gas. Well then do it. Like, don’t sit there and say, you can only do it if you’re doing it with, you know, 18,000 criteria in place.
Like, make it easy for the developers. Um, the money will flow, like investors will want to plow money into, you know, the development of these [00:08:00]projects, but get outta your own way and, and make it happen.
Joel Saxum: It’s kind of reminiscent to me. I guess this is for our US listeners. I was reading an article today about the, the, uh, no offense Phil, but the flight out of California.
It was the amount of people leaving there and there, and it was a, it was a, it was a, uh, letter written from a CEO of a development company that was saying basically like. It’s the hardest place in the United States to do business, and businesses are leaving in droves. People are leaving in droves. It’s like last year, 920,000 people left the state of California like a net loss.
Wow. Yeah. It was crazy. Like there’s 52, 50 5 million people there. But to lose. Basically 2% of your population in one year. That’s crazy. But the reason being is, is it’s the hardest place to do business in the United States. There’s barriers all the time. There’s, there’s permitting issues, there’s this, there’s that.
For real estate development companies, taxes, all this stuff that makes things difficult. Taxes is a big one. Right. But, but that’s what this, that’s what this to me looks like over in the, the EU right now is like you’re making it difficult for people to [00:09:00] do. And no wonder why people don’t want to do it.
They’re gonna look for the easiest place to stick their capital, or the easiest and safest place to stick their capital.
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Well, India has implemented new sweeping regulations that will shape the global wind turbine supply chain for at least a little while. The [00:10:00]ministry of New and renewable energy now requires all wind turbine manufacturers to source key components including blades, towers, generators, gear boxes, and some of the bearings from.
Government approved domestic suppliers. Now, I talked about this in newsflash a couple of days ago. Uh, but more information is coming out as we learn about it. The rules also mandate that all turbine performance and operational data must be stored on servers within India, uh, prohibiting real-time data transfers abroad.
So that forces Phil remote operation centers to be. Within India and they’re also talking about research centers that they must be within the country also. So, um, Sulan couldn’t have their research center in Pakistan. Not that that would happen, but they would have to have
Phil Totaro: it in India. But they actually have one in Germany.
Um, for those that don’t know, uh, and you know, there are several. There are several other, [00:11:00] um, Indian OEMs that, or who have licensed, uh, technology from Western companies that you could argue that they would have to domesticate, including, you know, a Donny group, which license and. Licenses, uh, a wind turbine design from, uh, wind to energy based in Rostock, Germany.
So you, you’ve got a situation there where what they’re really trying to do is kind of curb the rise of the Chinese in the market. Um, because at the end of the day, what a lot of those things are geared towards is precluding, um, China from just dumping. Um, goods in, into India. The data thing is interesting though because as you mentioned, they have to have, uh, everything kind of, um, co-located within India and that’s to prevent the realtime data flowing back to China, um, for these Chinese OEMs to be able to analyze it or, you know, remote operate and [00:12:00] control, uh, turbines from China.
Um, they want that, um, within India so that the people who are performing those kind of remote, you know, working in the remote operations center are, you know, either Indian nationals or would be subject to Indian law.
Joel Saxum: I think there’s, there’s something to be aware of here though, too. And, and Phil, we’ve had, this is a much larger macro conversation.
We’ve had this one before, but it’s about, uh, protectionism and growth. Because, you know, there has been countries that have been taken advantage of in the, in the history, and India’s definitely one of them that has been taken advantage of in the past, over the last 300 years, um, that we know that to be true.
Um, but sometimes when the pendulum swings and you start putting regulations and things like that, you can actually hurt yourself a little bit. And I’m just thinking about like, you know, we, you talk about like wanting to preclude some of the Chinese involvement. Okay. But there is West, there’s a lot of Western stuff there.
There is like say, even in, does it go this far? Envision in Vision has a presence in India, big time. [00:13:00] Envisions blades are designed in Boulder, Colorado. Right. So does that affect that? And, and they’re built, a lot of ’em are built by LM and lm, but LM has factories in India, so there’s a little bit of a change there.
Um, we did see in, and I don’t know if it’s a maybe leading up to the, the, the, this Siemens GAA sold their services unit in India couple, 4, 5, 6 months ago. So maybe they heard some whispers in the, in the waiting in the wings going like, well, we’re gonna have to relocate there anyways. We might as well sell this thing.
Well, they, they
Phil Totaro: had to, but that was, yeah, I, I, your, your point is made. But yeah, I, the, the reality of this is what it, what it does is it necessitates. A CapEx investment in the country, and the only way that somebody justifies making a CapEx investment in the country, any country, it doesn’t matter if it’s India, Brazil, the us, anywhere, people need to see visibility to a return.
This actually kind of ties in to what we were talking about with with the German [00:14:00] offshore wind auction. If anybody that wants to invest money, they need to be given a certain amount of EE. Even if you’re not gonna give ’em a guarantee, you have to give ’em a certain amount of, uh, credibility that they’re going to get some kind of a return on the investment they’re making because you’re asking people to spend hundreds of millions on domesticating production If you wanna create a domestic.
Market, you still have to facilitate the technology transfer, the knowledge transfer and the investment, the, the foreign investment that’s necessarily going to facilitate that. If, if you don’t have domestic companies that are competent enough and capable enough to, to build something themselves, so whether it’s wind turbines or solar or battery storage or whatever, then you’re necessarily trying to attract.
That capability from someplace else.
Joel Saxum: I’ve, I’ve, I’ve watched this in, uh, oil and gas in Africa. Oil and gas Africa, early [00:15:00] years, man, it came in and, and all of the majors came down, their Exxon, bp, shell, like, they, but they came from abroad because they, the expertise was not in country to do it. And then once it was like kind of pseudo established, you saw all of these governments, which there’s, there’s they, there’s this own problem in government relations in, in Africa anyways, but, um, you saw these governments set up all this, these barriers and these things to, to try to.
Benefit for the people that corruption got brought into it and all kinds of things. And after a while, a lot of these players like you see over there, like you see small players and local players. You don’t see. Exxon and Chevron and stuff making big splashes down in Africa anymore. They’re just not playing in it.
They have their existing assets. They’ve sold a lot of ’em to smaller companies. They’re running ’em. That’s, that’s still being, and they’ve moved on. They’re in Guyana, they’re in Brazil because they don’t have to deal with the stuff that they got barriers put in place over there.
Allen Hall: What will Europe think about the India supply chain if it does get up and running to the level they want it [00:16:00] to?
In relationship to leaving China and the components that come from China, would India be that source then? I think they kind of already are, aren’t they? I mean, there’s a lot of stuff comes from India.
Phil Totaro: A little bit, not as much as they want to be. It. That’s your next best option in terms of affordability and certainly India wants to be a major export hub, but this whole concept of that they’ve put in place of make it India is really to support their, their domestic growth in their domestic industry.
Basically, if you’re not already in India as a western company or even a Chinese company, the barrier to entry in the market is going up. As I mentioned, you know, you’re talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in CapEx and investment, and the only way you’re going to pull the trigger on that is if you’re seeing a trillion dollar return because you, you know, a lot of these companies want like at least a five x [00:17:00] multiple on whatever CapEx they’re plunking down.
Again, especially in this kind of an interest rate environment. Now, if interest rates go down, their threshold goes down.
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North America received over $158 million in financing to upgrade the Twin Ridges wind farm in Somerset County. I know where that is. Uh, boosting capacity to a hundred. 70 [00:18:00] megawatts, that’s a 30% capacity increase. And comes as data centers nationwide are looking for power and that that tends to be the area where a lot of data centers are located or will be located.
Uh, president Trump was just there in Pennsylvania and said, uh, wind energy in particular is not gonna power these data centers, these AI centers. But that doesn’t seem to be stopping anybody. Uh, excess renewables. CEO Jim Spencer reports strong demand from data centers across North America for wind and solar power.
Uh, so even if President Trump is in the neighborhood complaining about wind turbines, what is actually happening on the ground is wind and solar are gonna be powering a lot of those data centers because it’s lower cost and easier to install.
Phil Totaro: And it’s available electrons. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, do you really care what electrons are feeding?
You know, your refrigerator.
Joel Saxum: At the end of the day, this is just gonna be business cases that are gonna win [00:19:00] out, right? You want an AI data center online, you need power. Where are you gonna get it? So your business case, like do you want it built in the next six to nine months or do you wanna wait five years?
Okay. Business case wins out. We want
Phil Totaro: it now. You’d be lucky to get it in 2031. We’re gonna have a nuclear power station on the moon before we get gas powered, you know, AI data centers.
Allen Hall: Why are we doing that? Why are we, why are we spending money for nuclear power on the moon space, race, Allen space race, with whom?
China, because China’s gonna put a nuclear reactor on the moon. Is that what’s
Joel Saxum: gonna happen? Maybe we’ll figure out how to beam it back, shoot electrons through. Vacuum space back to earth or something.
Phil Totaro: But it, it actually, let, let’s tie this back in because that’s kind of the point. You, you can, you can say that you’re gonna go build something and, and it might be a pie in the sky thing, but you’re gonna be out of office by the time somebody wants to even start building that.
Because once you’ve figured out all the technical requirements to be able to even go do that. The administration’s gonna change, and then that’s just gonna be on the scrap [00:20:00] heap. So it, and it’s the same thing. It’s like, you know, like Joel just said, you want your power and you want it fast. You’re gonna go with wind and solar.
You’re gonna go with whatever electrons are available to you. You know, you’re, you’re not gonna be picky. You’re not gonna wait six or seven years for gas.
Joel Saxum: Yeah. When we’re talking gas plants for six or 7, 5, 6, 7 years down the line, we’re talking about these big ge big, big, you know, like the 500 megawatt machines, right?
Yeah. The nine nine series. I read an article the other day about, uh, a data center in, I think it was Ohio, Alan, we’ve been talking a lot about data centers in Ohio lately, on and on and off there, but I think it was in Ohio and it was, it was fired by like. 28 of these little gas turbines. Like they were little ones, right?
They were little like the si, like I looked, I saw the picture. It was like a drone flying over and like each of these little gas turbines was like the size of my pickup. Where are those coming from? [00:21:00] A
Allen Hall: DIY
Joel Saxum: project? No, no. They were bigger than that. They weren’t a Generac, it wasn’t a Honda Whisper. Quiet.
Yeah. They’re, they’re aero derivative generators. So what’s the, who’s building those? What’s the capacity on those? Like where is that gonna be a thing? GE builds those and Siemens, so you can get those. What’s the timeline on one of them? What’s the, what’s the wait time on. A queue list for that.
Phil Totaro: It’s shorter than, you know, the bigger units like a ge you know, seven FA or seven F whatever now.
Uh, or a nine FA or nine F whatever. Now, um, those are the ones that are like five, six years. Um, you know, wait list. The, a derivative engines are cheaper, less complex, easier. To make and faster to deploy, but then we get into the same, I mean, Joel, like, if you were gonna build a wind farm, do you build it with one, you know, five megawatt turbine, or do you build it with, you know, 25, you know, kilowatt size things,
Joel Saxum: but I think [00:22:00] you’re just, you’re, you’re up against the supply chain problem, right?
So like it’s, if you want to do this quick, like you can do that, but at the end of the day, does it really make. Does it make sense or should you just put, I mean, okay. In Ohio you’re not, there’s not a whole lot of wind farms. There’s a whole lot of wind resource. So if you’re gonna build ’em there, you need some kind of power.
Phil Totaro: But also the reason why we, we chase economies of scale and wind energy with, with turbine size is that. It’s less footprint and less to maintain. It’s, yes, it’s a single point of failure, so you need higher reliability with the one turbine instead of, you know, 25 smaller turbines. But you’re, you’re talking about, you know, the, the trade off between redundancy versus, you know, o and m complexity.
And cost.
Joel Saxum: Well, I, I completely agree with you, but I’m just thinking at the end of the day where the majority of data centers are going in the United States, Virginia, that kind of place, like Ohio, you need power. Your, your option right now is like [00:23:00] solar and batteries over there. Right? Or aero derivative engines where you’re gonna be burning fuel like bastard.
Do they sound like an airplane?
Phil Totaro: Sort of, yeah. I mean. They’re loud. They’re all loud anyway.
Joel Saxum: Yeah, that’s true.
Phil Totaro: That’s how, I mean, that’s how they came into being was they, they basically adapted an aircraft engine for power gen, you know, static land-based power generation use. Well, speaking of
Allen Hall: Ohio, Ohio’s Orphan Well program has dramatically increased its cleanup efforts from our friends over in the oil and gas business.
Uh, there are a lot of abandoned wells. Ohio and in the last five years they plugged about 1200 holes from oil and gas and about 2300 since 1977. So every year, Ohio is plugging several hundred oil and gas holes. And Joel, I guess I didn’t [00:24:00] think of Ohio as an oil and gas center. If you move a little bit to the East Pennsylvania.
Obviously oil and gas central for a long time in the United States, but there’s a lot of abandoned oil and gas wells in Ohio. To the point where, uh, they received about $80 million in federal funding from the bipartisan infrastructure law, uh, with up to about $300 million available through 2030 to help fill some of these wells.
And they’re still looking for them because they’re long abandoned. It could be under buildings, they could be covered with trees at this point. Who knows where they are, except from the emissions. That’s the only way they’re gonna be able to find them.
Joel Saxum: Yeah, the trouble here, and this is something that a lot of people don’t think about, um, okay, so Ohio is on the edge of the Marcellus Shale, right?
It’s the same shale play that’s in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Southern New York. It’s just that same edge, right? So when they found in the early ages of the United States and we started getting petroleum from [00:25:00] onshore resources, Pennsylvania was ground zero and it kind of flowed over into there. So you end up with this situation where you have rugged.
Remote terrain hills, uh, you know, tough to get to where they, these, some of these wells are, you know, a hundred years old where there’s no, you know, there’s, there’s, there’s terracotta pipe and stuff. Like, there’s not good metal pipe in those things. So then, and they are leaking because they were not plugged, right?
The companies have dissolved. There’s all kinds of stuff that’s just gone, right? There’s no records. Uh, we didn’t do a good job of record keeping in the early days. So how you find most of these. Is there’s a two to take a two stage approach. You look, you can look at classical maps and stuff, but that’s only gonna get you so far.
But you look at satellite imagery for methane gas detection, and you can find methane gas plumes from satellite imagery, the US government can, and they’ll get you narrowed down to like a, uh, depending on how bad the plume is, a one to 40 acre chunk. Then [00:26:00] you take a drone that has a methane sniffer on it, and you fly around with a methane sniffer until you kind of narrow in on the plume.
Then you use a metal detector and you find the area that’s time consuming, right? But the risk reward here is, and this is what people don’t understand when we talk about why we’re plugging these wells, it’s because we’re plugging them to get rid of greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases leak into the environment.
Climate change, all this bad stuff, right? So we always think about CO2, CO2, CO2, but what’s coming outta these wells, because of the way that oil and gas wells work, they are co-located with natural gas and coal beds, coal bed methane. When methane leaks outta the ground, methane comes outta the ground and it’s about 30 times worse than CO2 30 times worse than CO2 per unit.
For as a greenhouse gas for, uh,
Phil Totaro: atmospheric problems. And when we deorbit that satellite that tracks the methane emissions, I think it’s gonna make things a lot harder to do. Are [00:27:00] we doing that, Phil? Apparently. I mean, that was one of the other little rants that he went on the other day. He was like, we’re gonna blow up this satellite that’s for tracking climate change, but it’s actually tracking like the methane emissions from oil and gas.
Allen Hall: I thought Google. Posted those emissions, right. Didn’t Google open up the satellite imagery to see where, uh, methane or as Rosie calls it, methane originated from
Joel Saxum: uh, uh, CH four plus? I know that there’s resources online where you can go look. Uh, and why I know that is because I was actually a part of a research project that was a really cool laser interferometer on a fixed wing drone to find methane concentrations and then automatically map them with a fixed wing drone down to the source.
Um, and while we were in the middle of that project is when they, the government released the ability for this satellite to do it. And I was like, well, there goes that. We don’t need this thing anymore.
Allen Hall: Well, why wouldn’t these billion dollar oil and gas companies take responsibility for the holes they previously dug, or at least be [00:28:00]responsible and say, all right, there’s some abandoned wells in my general vicinity.
Why wouldn’t I plug those as a service to humanity?
Joel Saxum: I think there is a few players that do that. But the gov, because they’re not forced to do it. They’re not spending the money outrightly. Right. There is a couple of like, uh, grassroots organizations. There’s one up in Montana, I can’t remember the name of it, that has taken this on, and they will take donations from some of these oil and gas companies, and they’re like, we’re doing good, and we’re plugging these wells.
And this guy, this guy, and his team goes and does it. But I mean, you can’t, you can’t put a dent in what’s out there.
Allen Hall: Well, just think about the Ohio numbers. $82 million. It is plugged about 1200 wells. So do the math. It’s not that much money per Well, I think, uh. Pick your oil and gas company throwing $80 million to help a state out plug these wells is nothing.
It’s a drop in the bucket.
Joel Saxum: That’s how much money in federal funding they’ve received. They’ve, they’re, it costs way more, costs way more [00:29:00] than $82 million to plug 1200 wells.
Allen Hall: Right. But you see what was done though, right? I, I assume the state of Ohio is pitching it a bunch of money to, to do this also, but I, I, I don’t understand.
If oil and gas is gonna be the responsible party, why they’re not responsible for the cleanup of the things they’ve left behind and on purpose, bankrupt and ll seeded and buried. Yeah.
Joel Saxum: And I think for the most part, like the, the, the players that had have control or do this, it’s a lot of Permian awesome cat drilling company.
Like it’s not Chevron and bp, right. It’s
Allen Hall: Oh sure. But eventually those wells ended up in a bigger player. They all do at some point. Unless they’re completely dry. I super frustrating watching that. Go on
Joel Saxum: this week’s Wind Farm of the Week is Reviere de Mulloon in Quebec. I probably got that wrong, sorry, to my EDF friends up there in Canada.
Um, but this [00:30:00] wind farm is near the town of Sine and Charlevoix in Ana, Las San John in re in, uh, Northern Quebec. So this. Wind farm. It was uh, two phases, 2014 and 2015, phase one and phase two built by EDF and at the time biggest wind farm in Canada and one of the largest in the United States. It was 175 GE 2.0107 meter rotor machines, which you don’t hear about that often.
Uh, so this was again built by EDF and it’s an interesting project ’cause it was built across rugged terrain. I’ve actually driven through this wind farm. And it is timber, it is hills. It’s beautiful, it’s beautiful country. But to be thinking about that project and how they built it, amazing. Uh, so they did, uh, this is cold climate, right?
So GE put, uh, all, all the turbines are equipped with low temperature packages, reliable for operation in Quebec winters. Including ice detection, icing systems and de-icing systems. So that being said, we are having a webinar, uh, shortly, I think in the [00:31:00] next few weeks. Correct me if I’m wrong, Alan, about de-icing systems.
Yes, we are with the OG ping. All right. So, um, in, in other interesting things about this wind farm, the extensive wildlife studies, because this is I think one of the only wind farms I know of that, uh, had a caribou migration path through the middle of it. So they, uh, not only monitored that for before construction, but they’re monitoring it through construction to make sure that don’t.
Um, affect any of those local populations of animals. Uh, but, uh, despite remote access and severe winters, uh, proactive o and m planning all the way to down to crazy things like specialized vehicles and track vehicles and covers over the top of trucks to watch for falling ice and using helicopters for inspections and access.
Um, really, really neat, uh, o and m planning up there. Uh, this wind farm actually has a really high availability rate. So, uh, the Riviere de mu lane is a rare combination of large scale engineering complexity and ecological responsibility. Congrats to our friends up at EDF in Quebec. [00:32:00] You are the Wind Farm of the Week.
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Allen discusses Australia’s ‘Marinus Link’ power grid connection, a $990 million wind and battery project by Acciona, and the Bank of Ireland’s major green investment in East Anglia Three. Plus Ørsted’s strategic changes and Germany’s initiative to reduce dependency on Chinese permanent magnets.
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Good day, this is your friend with a look at the winds of change sweeping across our world. From the waters around Australia to the boardrooms of Europe, the clean energy revolution is picking up speed. These aren’t just stories about wind turbines and power cables. They’re stories about nations and companies making billion dollar bets on a cleaner tomorrow.
There’s good news from Down Under today. Australia and Tasmania are officially connecting their power grids with a massive underwater cable project called the Marinus Link.
The project just got final approval from shareholders including the Commonwealth of Australia, the State of Tasmania, and the State of Victoria. Construction begins in twenty twenty six, with completion set for twenty thirty.
This isn’t just any cable. When finished, it will help deliver clean renewable energy from Tasmania to millions of homes on the mainland. The project promises to reduce electricity prices for consumers across the region.
Stephanie McGregor, the project’s chief executive, says this will change the course of a nation. She’s right. When you connect clean energy sources across vast distances, everyone wins.
The Marinus Link will cement Australia’s position as a leader in the global energy transition. But this is just the beginning of our story from the land Down Under.
Here’s a story about big money backing clean energy. Spanish renewable developer Acciona is moving forward with a nine hundred ninety million dollar wind and battery project in central Victoria, Australia.
The Tall Tree project will include fifty three wind turbines and a massive battery storage system. Construction starts in twenty twenty seven, with operations beginning in twenty twenty nine.
But here’s what makes this special. The project has been carefully designed to protect local wildlife. Acciona surveyed eighty two threatened plant species and fifty six animal species near the site. They’ve already reduced the project footprint by more than twenty four square kilometers to protect high value vegetation areas.
This massive investment will create construction jobs and long term maintenance positions in the region. It will also provide clean electricity to power hundreds of thousands of homes while reducing reliance on fossil fuels.
When companies invest nearly a billion dollars in clean energy, they’re betting on a cleaner future. And Australia isn’t the only place where that smart money is flowing.
The Bank of Ireland is making headlines today with its largest green investment ever. The bank has committed eighty million pounds to East Anglia Three, an offshore wind farm that will become the world’s second largest when it begins operating next year.
Located seventy miles off England’s east coast, East Anglia Three will generate enough clean electricity to power more than one point three million homes.
John Feeney, chief executive of the bank’s corporate division, calls this exactly the kind of transformative investment that drives innovation and accelerates the energy transition.
This follows the bank’s earlier ninety eight million pound commitment to Inch Cape wind farm off Scotland’s coast. The Bank of Ireland has set a target of thirty billion euros in sustainability related lending by twenty thirty. They’ve already reached fifteen billion in the first quarter of this year.
When major financial institutions back clean energy this aggressively, they’re signaling where the smart money is going. But what happens when even the biggest players need to adjust their sails?
Denmark’s Orsted is recalibrating its strategy amid changing market conditions. The company is considering raising up to five billion euros to strengthen its financial position while scaling back some expansion plans.
Orsted has reduced its twenty thirty installation targets from fifty gigawatts to between thirty five to thirty eight gigawatts. But don’t mistake this for retreat. The company is focusing on high margin, high quality projects while maintaining its leadership in offshore wind.
The company’s Revolution Wind project in Rhode Island and Sunrise Wind in New York remain on track for completion in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. These projects will deliver clean electricity to millions of Americans.
CEO Rasmus Errboe is implementing aggressive cost cutting measures, including reducing fixed costs by one billion Danish kroner by twenty twenty six. The company plans to divest one hundred fifteen billion kroner worth of assets to free capital for core projects.
Sometimes the smartest strategy is knowing when to consolidate and focus on what you do best. For Orsted, that’s building the world’s most efficient offshore wind farms. And speaking of strategic thinking, Europe is planning ahead for energy independence.
Germany is leading a European push to reduce dependence on Chinese permanent magnets. The German wind industry has proposed that Europe source thirty percent of its permanent magnets from non Chinese suppliers by twenty thirty, rising to fifty percent by twenty thirty five.
Currently, more than ninety percent of these vital rare earth magnets come from China. The German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy is backing this diversification effort, working with industry associations to identify alternative suppliers.
The roadmap calls for turbine manufacturers to establish contacts with new suppliers by mid twenty twenty five, with production facilities potentially operational by twenty twenty nine.
Karina Wurtz, Managing Director of the Offshore Wind Energy Foundation, calls this a strong signal toward a new industrial policy that addresses geopolitical risks.
This isn’t just about reducing dependence on one country. It’s about building resilient supply chains that ensure the continued growth of clean energy. When an industry plans this thoughtfully for its future, that future looks very bright indeed.
You see, the news stories this week tell us something important. From Australia’s underwater cables to Germany’s supply chain strategy, the world is building the infrastructure for a clean energy future. Billions of dollars are flowing toward wind power. Major banks are making their largest green investments ever. Even when companies face challenges, they’re doubling down on what works.
The wind energy industry isn’t just growing. It’s maturing. It’s getting smarter about where to invest and how to build sustainably. And that means the winds of change aren’t just blowing… they’re here to stay.
And now you know… the rest of the story.
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